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Joule Thief

Started by Pirate88179, November 20, 2008, 03:07:58 AM

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TheNOP

#7510
June 22, 2009, 02:59:16 AM
@Pirate88179
i am not familiar with microwave oven internal circuitry.
but what componants are actually seeing the 2.4MH...

is not the MOT a steal cored transformer ?

electricme

#7511
June 22, 2009, 04:30:54 AM
@Stprue,
Should we try parts of these circuits in the JT,  powering with NPN and PNP transistors.

http://uzzors2k.googlepages.com/flybacktransformer

jim
People who succeed with the impossible are mocked by those who say it cannot be done.

electricme

#7512
June 22, 2009, 07:29:23 AM
@All,
I decided to do a bit of a clean up here at the house, and just found my three High Voltage Probes along with some tools I was missing for a couple of years.  ;D
I have ADHD and if I put something down, and I don't use it constantly, I forget where I put it.
I'm so happy. :D

I befriended a old chappie in my town, he died and there was an Auction at his place, he had all sorts of good stuff he had put away, most people said it was junk.

Anyway, I bought a couple of boxes of "junk", forgot what they were now, one had the probes underneath something else piled on top, so I had a real win that day, although I missed out on the machining lathe.

Old Norm had even seen the Min Min Lights in his younger days, balls of glowing energy, he told me the story in front of his sister and one of my daughters.

The HV Probes are
0994 = Grey Black probe, its rated as 28KV
0995 = All Grey, it says "Probe for Model FN". Must be related to the below probe.
0996 = All Marone (Red) 1.4KV-DC=3.5KV-AC for Model FN

jim

Time for a cuppa T
People who succeed with the impossible are mocked by those who say it cannot be done.

electricme

#7513
June 22, 2009, 07:50:24 AM
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that is called a head road right? (it is now) he he he councle got stuck into it and put more bitumen down

bob?

Don't even think about me and a mot.
no way hosay!   (No sence of adventure lol)

I was wondering if it took me 240 turns and some magic with the tuning, to get 450 volts, could I add another 80 turns and get 600? Or, was it more magic than turns?

jeanna

M A G I C
;D
People who succeed with the impossible are mocked by those who say it cannot be done.

resonanceman

#7514
June 22, 2009, 08:32:16 AM
Quote from: electricme on June 22, 2009, 12:27:08 AM
@Resonanceman

Gary,
I don't know if IST has answered.

Careful removing the steel parts, inturnal covers etc, they are very sharp, I have cut myself at times.

When you "demoting" a microwave,
FIRST,  SHORT THE BIG HV CAPACITOR OUT,,, BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING ELSE

Use a insulated screwdriver, and touch the terminals on the cap MANY TIMES at least 10 times, as these things can "recharge" themselves, just like a 1.5v AA battery if left alone. Hold the screwdriver against it for a long time, bleed off any charge.

Then pull the wires off the capacitor.
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You mentioned several posts back you were getting a "1/8" inch spark out of a JT, just put this spark into the HI Volt windings, they will be the finer wire coil.

Thats right Gary, we need to reduce the HV to get a lower voltage to play with.

If you get "blue" sparks, then there is a good chance you are in the aeather  stuff ;D
If only orange sparks, then you have ordinary electricity stuff. :D

jim

@TheNOP
Is it possible to have 2 types of electrical energy circulating in an electrical device at the same time?

jim


Thanks Jim

I did  short out the  big cap before I did anything  near it .
I got some  nice parts out of it.
This  microwave was the kind that  goes over a stove .
It had a really nice duel squirl cage fan in it
There was also a   2000 V 1uF  cap and  a big  diode connected to it.

So far it looks  like the  second MOT is  choking the  first MOT.
I am going to play with it a while  and see if I can get it working.


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But when Gary said he had made 1/8" sparks feeding a JT into his iron transformer, then whacko, it just came to me.

I have NO idea what you will find in regard to effects of CEMF or EMFn the transformers, you know as much as I do, probably much more in fact.


This is not quite accurate ........ I  may try feeding  a JT into a MOT if all else fails .

I made  a JT out of  the  main windings of a MOT.
I fired  it up and the  high voltage winding  lit  a CFL  ( my first CFL lighting  :)   )
( this winding is the one that is connected to  ground on one side  )
The  sparks were about 1/8 inch .......and they  were mostly blue.

I do  think  that the MOT  has a little " magic " hidden in there  somewhere .
We  just need to find it     :)


gary
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