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[stprue]

64volts.
This is looking close to maximum.
I put 3 quarters on separately and each one adds less to the total.
It is looking like diminishing returns.
And, it really wants the primary to be in clear quarters. I mean a real cross.  The voltage was down at like 48v then I saw that the quarters were kind of squished together, so I made them really square. a real cross, and it helped, but it is not progressing well.

I think stprue has it for this kind of thing.

Make the secondary/pickup go in such a way that all the direction stuff is happening in the primary.

I am curious to see what will happen with another pickup.
The other thing I am curious about is this.

Stprue, would you please check something for me?
Using a battery and not using those caps, count how much the pickup voltage goes down for each superbright.

Please remember to put 20 in series first, so you don't blow them, then find the best number for brightness, then tell me how many volts are there with that number of superbrights.

I am asking because not all my configurations go down by the same amount when lighting the leds.
I am wondering what that is about.
Could it be directionality? Shape of the wave being ac or more dc??

thank you,

jeanna

I am done playing tonight But I can do that for you.  I think you are right about the above because even with my MK design giving out like 30volts or so it actually looks like it lights as well or better then a different design with more output voltage!  This I have seen...

You should try this little coil I just made simple and relatively efficient!

I keep thinking aobut my veerrrrryyyyyy unfinished biggo pumping out over 700.  I wonder what that will do when it is full? 

I think all of are problems right now is that we do not have the amps to do heavy work...this secret will lead to the loop and OU.  Tesla....Jeanna....I think it is with him and you are the one reading his stuff now so I will wait to see what you learn...hummmmm I need to start reading his stuff!!!

P.S. Join the goldmine challenge 

[jeanna]

I am done playing tonight But I can do that for you.  I think you are right about the above because even with my MK design giving out like 30volts or so it actually looks like it lights as well or better then a different design with more output voltage!  This I have seen...

which is the reason I am so curious and, bye the way, so surprised that xee2 was able to light a fluorotube with 2T,19T,80T turns and the biggo. It only made thin little spikes and very occasionally. nothing really, and yet gave results. very curious, that.

...Tesla....Jeanna....I think it is with him and you are the one reading his stuff now so I will wait to see what you learn...hummmmm I need to start reading his stuff!!!

It sure would be nice to have company in that.

It was really astounding to see what the EE's of his 1892 took for granted. So much that the details are hard to get. You need to gleen them.

For instance, they all used an induction coil and they all measured the amount of 'electricity' by looking at sparks.
It was almost their measuring device as our neon is.
They had and used varnished mag wire, which I didn't realize. (and that tidbit only came out as an aside)
There is a lot of information in what Tesla does not have to tell his audience because they knew it already, and yet we hardly do.

Yes, it will be very nice to have someone else get into this. On that russian geo thread bill started, I gave lots of encouragement to look into tesla, but no one wanted to read it. Thanks to bolt some are now interested. All the information on that is right in tesla's writings. That Georgian guy built a tesla power unit and you can too, but read tesla first, then see that video.

P.S. Join the goldmine challenge 

Hehe, that means I need to get them out of the shoebox. Most of my mediums are wrapped as loosers. I suppose it would be good to do that.

But what I really want to do is this:
I would like to take one output of 100v and split it into 2 parts and increase each part to 100v without messing with the other one... but that is another thread.

jeanna

[xee2]

@ stprue

@all

Here is the mini TRM aka x2x2

1 inch goldmine toriod
26 guage mag wire x2 base/collector coil 6 turns each side 3b and 3c.....40 each side on pickup for a total of 80
2N3055 transistor
800v@1a bridge full wave
400v metalised polyister cap
maxcaps (3)
500v Pot 1 turn set at 178.7ohms

Looks good. 306 volts DC out of rectifier should mean slightly over 400 volts peak going into rectifier. That may just be enough to light a tube. If you have a neon, can you check if both electrodes light when it is put across pickup coil output leads?

EDIT: Well maybe not over 400 volts peak going into rectifier. What is capacitance value of your 400 volt capacitor and is it across the rectifier outputs?

[innovation_station]

you guys lol

who made the WIZE  crack bout the dead battery LOL LOL LOL

IST !!



ill find the post yet!!   lol

you guys crack me up lol

i threw togather this small unit 4 coil 1 wire 4 turn unit ..  4x4 lol

it ramps up it sounds like it does anyhow  ..  i scoped it and i see a faint wave move on the scope  if i pulse it it will ramp stop and ramp ... it sounds cool .. 

but yet i am not tapping much output from it but is sure is fast ...   

and since im right out of 1 " units... i built a lazy air core .. and im getting the most unexpected results .. i took out a relay coil   short and long of it when i place the non wired relay coil ontop of the air coil they kinda sync and pulse.. im getting 150 v there bouts from the air core and 3-4 v on the relay coil verry fast wave way over my scope i thought the battery was dead and self pulasteing    but no that is not the case ...

it only does this when i place the relay coil ontop of the secondary air core ... 

hummm  transformer ?  then magnet ?  i dont know .. it does kind of look like that is the case ...

weird ...

i used a magnet and it does push a tiny bit aginst it ...    the magnet did not seem to affect the self pualsting wave ... 

so there ya go i grabed the dead battery trick and showed you some crazy air core syncing effect

ill take a pic if you all want me 2

hows that for tuneing in 

MADE A LITTLE VIDEO ...  ill post the link..  when it finishes up loading

[jeanna]

Go ahead ist,
I like your pictures, and could you describe 4 x 4 better?
1 wire 4 turns? or 1 wire 4 coils of 4 turns?

Stprue,
I found this. You were once there at a tesla thread, but I just made a small screenshot of the 2 completely separate outputs which are part of the TRM patent.

Then I also noticed that after all that messing with the picture, I saw I had wound it wrong. Maybe that is why I had such a problem. I remembered it right but had it in mind to do it wrong! eesh!

It is a primary wound the way you wound the first half of your secondary.
I think I will wind a secondary as tesla suggests and have that on the inside. Then I can make adjustments to my primary as I need to.

here it is.

jeanna