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jeanna

#9130
August 15, 2009, 11:46:22 PM
Oh I see.
This may be so, but it will still stop when it falls below a certain voltage level.
I do have a favorite diagram. I will see if I can find it . It has always helped me set it up.

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I found it and made it into a pdf. I hope you can open it all right.


jeanna

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There is something wrong with my margins.
Is anybody else having this problem?
Mk1 put up a very wide picture as I did yesterday on another thread, and from that picture to now, the margins of the whole page are 3 full clicks wide.
I must scroll over on every line!
It is very tedious.
Am I alone with this problem?
Last week, the oversized pics would hang over the frame but the
margins would be normal.

help!

jeanna

electricme

#9131
August 16, 2009, 06:43:09 AM
@Gary,
Quote from: resonanceman on August 14, 2009, 11:26:25 PM
Jeanna

I  just used  the  ignition coil as  an inductor  for  making flyback
I connected  one  wire from  my secondary   to  one of the terminals for the primary  and   then I  connected  the load to the   secondary .
So  the coil  was   in  series   with the secondary .


I thought  about  trying to make  a JT  with  the ignition coil .     
I gave the idea up ...... if it had  another  primary  terminal  it might work .........but as it is  I see no practical way to make it work.


What  I have been wondering  about is  if it would help  add flyback   if  we were to  try  running  the ignition  coil    more as it was designed .
I am talking  about  still hooking it up as I did   using one   terminal  of the  primary  and  the  high  voltage   connection   for  the  other connection .
What  I wonder is   if  anything  can  be gained by using the  second  primary  connnection to  charge the  coil like   it would  be in a car .

I am thinking maybe  a high  voltage  diode and  a pot  between the  battery and other  connection to the primary . 
Then maybe  a  high voltage cap after   the coil . ....to  keep the battery from  driving  the load directly .
Just thinking about it ......I have not  tried it yet


gary
Hi Gary, if you were game, cut the ign coil  open, then when it is apart, unsolder the joined neg wires, this will free up another wire for you to use.
Watch out for oil, better do this outside and over a meat tray, save the oil in a glass bottle and lable it.

@all,
This afternoon I was repairing a PC, I was given a wheelie walker, so as only had a 24v gopha, I towed it back, what a sight this was, I stopped all the oldies playing their game of bowls ha ha.
jim
 
People who succeed with the impossible are mocked by those who say it cannot be done.

Thaelin

#9132
August 16, 2009, 07:11:57 AM
Hi Gary:
   In the search for what is going on, I too have run into the realization
that this "must" be a resonance thing. If you look into natures clock work
you will find resonance at work. You may have to look at the really big
picture to see it but it is there.
   Now take a coil/cap pair, at only one spot is it resonant. Your charge
only happens when your circuit is in resonance. The key is to find a way
to add a feed back to tell the main circuit to adjust to keep it there.
   I have been on a quest to learn how to wind a "proper" coil. Not as easy
as you would think. Many factors go into the mix. Wire size is really not
a really important factor other than how much amps you wish to carry in
it. Things like C to L ratio, diameter to length and spaceing of the winds
all have a very high effect on its outcome.
   I have chosen to set the frequency and then adjust all these factors to
achieve that result. Number 14 solid wire should be enough to get started
with.

thaelin



>Quote from Gary<

I am hoping  that the   timer is  more stable than the JT

I can get  a  JT to self charge  with enough  inductors  .
The problem is   I can't get it to keep  charging .
I  am pretty sure  it is a resonance thing .
It  charges well  when  it is in resonance  .........but  as the battery  voltage changes  ....it drifts out of  resonance and  stops charging .

I  am hoping that   with  a chip I can  set  the frequency  and it will  stay  at least close to that  frequency  over a wide voltage range .
If so  .......It should  be much easier to keep it in self change mode .

gary

innovation_station

#9133
August 16, 2009, 08:23:38 AM
i was wondering about useing a larger battery on the supply ..

say like 12v then step it down to 1.5v this would insure the voltage remained the same for a peroid of time ...

and when it does start to drift swap the battery  with a recharged one ...

i would think this would work ok ... 

ps
gary keep it here!!

ill be back at it soon ... i just need to reset up my lab ...  and this time ...  well i will compleat my units fully

im considering haveing a green engery expo at the beech next spring ..  untill then i will build build and even build MORE!!  ;D

got lots of storage ... and 180 A.. farm to show em off ...

i have come up with a portable EB cell of higher voltage output!!

i plan on setting up my turbines pulse motors hho cells solar amps wind generators EB'S AND JT'S TPU.  cascade amps... 

and of course the cable system i will be picking up ...  ;D

there was even a dammaged XM2 power supply unit ... i may be able to have....  ;D

a mouse got into the XM2 and chewed a few wires....  :D   

who knows ...   the xm2 are expencive units ...  so i wont hold my breath ...    i hear you put in 90 amp ...  they spit out 120 amp 1000v ...  ;)

i have never seen them .... 

the stuff i can have is the older stuff trunk amps ... power insertors ... rf amps ... that kind a thing ...  ;D

and A FEW TRUCK LOADS.... OF EM  8)  ALL FREE OF COURSE THEY ALL WORK JUST FINE ...

someone i know is installing fiber optics across ontario... this is the equipment they are removeing ...

plus who knows ...  this is just the gear from a few small towns ....   there was an old fiber link hub thing too ...  like i said in 10 days i will know better what i was given ..

im just moveing ...   and getting it all back in ordor .. 

then im a full timer ...   ;D

W

hang on there gary ...  cuz were gonna  rip....   

EVEN IF THE RECORD SKIPPS I STILL RIP ...   ;D

RIP= ROCK IN PEACE!

            SNC
            CRU 

STRIGHT NO CHASER!! 8)  PULSE AMPLIFICATION .........   ARC REACTORS ON!! :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oCXwl7XBiQ

OK  so i add this ...  i herd this on the radio yesterday ...  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

in st tomas ontario there was a report of a spirialing ufo out of control  crashed yesterday ... 

the police an opp helicoptor and a number of agencyies are serching a 25km square looking for the remains of the down ship ... .. 

no joke this was brodcast on the radio yesterday ...  and there was also a show bout 3-4 weeks ago in trontro 2 ufo's over the lake on the lake shore battling it out!!  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

slayer007

#9134
August 16, 2009, 09:37:26 AM
I'm not sure if this belongs here or I should start another thread.But it is running a JT.

I this video I'm using an earth ground on the negative side of the battery.
And using an AV on the positive side of the battery.
With a capacitor comming off the negative diode and going back to an earth ground or antenna.

I'm running the JT off the capacitor thats grounded off the metal shelf.

It's been running for 20+ hours and the battery is the same as when it started.

Here is a couple video's of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lK9-qE-wPwE&feature=channel_page

And here is one after 20 hours of running.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qldWl4EEFu4&feature=channel_page
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