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Joule Thief

Started by Pirate88179, November 20, 2008, 03:07:58 AM

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rensseak

Quote from: resonanceman on September 18, 2009, 03:43:23 PM
IotaYodi

I do not  remember  the file  systems that are compatable  with both  windows and linux .....but  I do remember  if you use the wrong one   you can't  get to the files on the other  system .


gary

if you use Windows and want access to your linux ext2/3 filesystem than use this here:

http://ext2fsd.sourceforge.net/projects/projects.htm

http://www.google.de/#hl=de&source=hp&q=Ext2fsd&btnG=Google-Suche&meta=&aq=f&oq=Ext2fsd&fp=64ae5300522d1bb2


resonanceman

Quote from: jeanna on September 18, 2009, 04:25:31 PM
It is even on the newest version of ubuntu.
I downloaded it first then found somebody referring to it then found synaptic (on board installation app.) would just get it and bring it in plus all the necessaries and install it... and it did.
Yes, I remember

I just got back from radio shack.
I decided to buy a set of spools. They are packaged in narrow spools now, so maybe I can fit more than 2 on my stubcoil.


If it is  the same amount of wire on  narrow  spools   with the same  size center .....that is  great .......except for situations like my splitters  where I  put  2  spools of  wire together on one spool .

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Right.
I kind of flubbed my explanation yesterday.
I am using the flyback pulses from the jt toroid and not changing the pulses at all at that point of origin.
With the pulses defined and being generated, I am now adding to them with inductors.
I am pretty sure there is no additional flyback, because the new/additional inductors are not part of the switching mechanism.

But maybe your comment is what I need.
Maybe this is the reason toroidal inductors seem to be so good in this application.
Maybe they ARE doing a kind of flyback...


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I am glad you restated it. I think it is helpful for us to realize what each of us is up to... and maybe when we add to our focus or change it a little, too.

jeanna


Jeanna

I would  say that anytime  a magnetic  field  collapses it creates  a flyback pulse ......  Others  can correct me if I am wrong .
I think there are times when   the pulses  are not noticeable .But they are still there.


gary

jeanna

Quote from: resonanceman on September 18, 2009, 05:37:42 PM
If it is  the same amount of wire on  narrow  spools   with the same  size center .....that is  great .......
Yes, I thought so. It is convenient. I can also try slayer's(or was that lidmotor's?)  trick to have 2 different gauge spools making one bifilar with a differential in it.

QuoteI would  say that anytime  a magnetic  field  collapses it creates  a flyback pulse ......

I have been think about this since I replied.
I am using these in series and the pulses should be adding further flyback. Now, it makes some more sense to me.

I guess what is fixed by the primary toroid is the frequency, then all the rest are more spikes added to the others which are enhanced by the new flyback to give higher pulses.

Oh this is great, Gary. I do not know how I missed that, but you are right.
It also explains why I had good results without adding the cap for a tank.

I finally got the right range of cap, yesterday, so now I am up to 24 lights in series. I was not sure the lights were as bright, and the voltage was up even higher with the additional lights, (so I did some errands to mull it over).

So, this is how I can have more and more voltage and more lights. I knew It was what I had to do, but not getting why.
The other thing is the toroid seems a much better core for what I am doing than a straight core.

Thanks Gary,

jeanna

mmm I might have to change those thoughts too. I just found new frequency and new voltage everywhere. I like toroids. They are so full of surprises!  :D
j

Pirate88179

Jeanna:

Lidmotor's idea was to have 2 wires all wrapped bifilar but, using all of the wire available in the RS spools.  As you know, those spools come with x amount of 22 gauge and x+ many more feet of 26 gauge wire.  So, he came up with the idea of using all of the wire on both of those spools.  What you end up with is his "transformer" coil.  It displays some interesting characteristics due to the many, many more feet of the smaller ga. wire on the same coil. (You run out of the thicker wire and just keep winding with the thinner wire until gone.)

I have wound 3 of these and all of them perform very well in my Bedini applications.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

jeanna

That's the one!

So, do you use it centertapped like the joule thief?

I was looking at the bedini page from somewhere out there and it sounded simple but there are too many parts to make, you know, like making a motor.

Anyway, Bedini has an iron stuffed spool of wire that he calls trifilar, but my guess is that it is bifilar the way we define it. Is that right? (there are 4 of them or more...)

So, as the magnet on the edge of the motor goes close to the coil, the iron responds, then the coil responds then it spikes when it reverses. I am not sure, but I think he said when it reverses, the reverse magnetic direction pushes the magnet on the wheel along. It looks really brilliant to me.

I am wondering about the trifilar question first.
then I will take myself to a bedini thread just to see it.

I bet you could run the motor doing work as he shows, and instead of storing the spikes, you could use them live... plug it in so to speak.

hmmm

I guess lidmotor's ideas are on the energetic forum. I already forgot my password once, maybe I stored it so I can use this new ubu computer there too!  ;)

thank you,

jeanna