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Overunity Machines Forum



Joule Thief

Started by Pirate88179, November 20, 2008, 03:07:58 AM

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innovation_station

bill i do agree

i loosly use the term jt ... 


as most of the things i make are the next thing after the jt ... 

i cant wate to build j's coil and do my trick ... lol

wow it will be wild!

william
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

PaulLowrance

Quote from: Pirate88179 on December 20, 2009, 02:39:29 PM
Paul:

But that is a totally different circuit he is talking about.  You just tested a sort of replication of his JT circuit alone.  Again, I know of no one that claims COP>1 for just a JT circuit by itself.  I just want to keep the facts clear here for others coming into our topic. Gadget's circuit for the OU prize is much more than just a stand alone simple JT so, in my opinion, you are comparing apples and oranges here.

Bill

Bill,

Gadgetmall was making a lot of posts on how his Joule Thief circuit could charge the ultracap from such & such voltage to such & such voltage with hardly no drop in his 2500mAh battery, like on the order of a few mili volts. You can dig for his posts if you want, but his claim to how much he changed the ultracap was relatively high. He's made a lot of outrageous claims. That is the Joule Thief circuit I tested. The one with a 1N34A germanium diode, bcap0650, 2N2222 transistor, etc.  Gadgetmall told me I could use a high permeability core, which is what I used. Yesterday I ordered the exact core part number he's using, so we'll see what that does. If it's cop>1, I'll be more than pleased, but I seriously doubt it. The only reason I tested that circuit was because of gadgetmalls huge claims. My measurements showed absolutely nothing close to his claims.

Now if you or someone else has an equally impressive claim, then please let me know and I'll consider replicating it.

Thanks

PaulLowrance

Quote from: Pirate88179 on December 20, 2009, 02:39:29 PMGadget's circuit for the OU prize is much more than just a stand alone simple JT

If that exact circuit is published here then I might give it a try.

BTW, I don't know why you keep saying "simple" JT. The topic is about JT, so I don't see what difference it makes if it's simple or complex. I tested the *only* gadgetmall circuit I saw that he was making big claims about. If that's called a simple JT, then great.

hartiberlin

Quote from: jeanna on December 19, 2009, 10:16:49 PM
I went back.
I must have made a better connection or else the input battery was dead-ish when I started, because those same 100 turns is making 1200 volts!

Here is what happened:
I had forgotten to measure the amps draw.
[I believe the amps draw is only about the take of the transistor and a measure of how long it is on in the process,
but I dutifully measure it anyway, but this time I forgot.]
When I went back, the circuit just did nothing... then I added a fresher battery and the volts went off the chart to 1200v and the amps draw is around 140mA.

Just to celebrate I took this picture:
twoBrudders  :D

jeanna

Hi Jeanna,
well done.

So you used only one AA battery ?
So the voltage input into your JT was only around 1 Volts when
running the your JT ?

So it was a power input of less than 0.15 Watts to light up
these 2 CFLs ?

That is amazing at this brightness, although CFLs don´t need much
power when energized by RF pulses, but just 0.15 Watts is really
amazing.

How bright were these 2 CFLs ?
The cameras normally don´t show a realistic picture when
shooting lights. ( at least my camera tends to over exposure)

Were these so bright like normal e.g. 10 Watts range types CFLs ?

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

crowclaw

Quote from: Pirate88179 on December 20, 2009, 02:13:55 AM
Jadaro:

This is what I have been using for mine:  (sorry for the crude drawing)  I basically copied Introvertabrate's circuit from Youtube.

Bill
Hi Bill,
Just check your schematic... i think you have your batteries incorrectly labeled. The cathode of your diode coming from the transistors collector is going to your battery labelled supply!