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Joule Thief

Started by Pirate88179, November 20, 2008, 03:07:58 AM

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Mannix

@gadget

In other devices people have found that 22 turns is magic. I wonder about that in your circuit.

It would be interesting to add or subtract  a few turns ..this is not based on any theory.

Pirate88179

@ All:

I think I finally have my Jeanna Light tuned pretty well over here.  I settled on 2 turns on the base, (22 ga. solid wire) around 330 on the pick-up (28 ga. mag wire) and 5 turns on the collector.(22 ga. stranded)  I am using a wire wound vr on the base of 25 ohms which gives me enough room to adjust for best light and less singing.  I have also added one of my large and very powerful 1" OD X 2" long neos left over from my Jonny Davro one magnet Bedini experiments and this brightens the light a lot and raises the freq. of the singing to where I can't hardly hear it at all.

I got zapped once again and this is putting out some pretty high voltage  according to my subjective pain meter located in my finger tips.

I just ran the light for about 2 hours and I find it fascinating that the cfl bulb was not only not hot, it was ice cold...colder than my room temperature.  I may try the addition of a trigger coil to the circuit just to see what happens there.  One other thing I thought about trying was that, since I am running on 1.5 volts, I think my EER might be able to run this circuit, possibly even without any super caps in the circuit.  I may try that on Christmas.

I love this little light!

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

innovation_station

well i can add a few things here .. 

i use 3 turns ... total ... jt  my leds are bright ... 

33ohm resistor...3/8 toroide.. od

there are many things i dont agree with but .  we will let it iron its self out lol


IM STARING A NEW THRED ..

THE WJT TRANSFORMER WINDING 101 

W J T  STANDS FOR  WILLIAM JEANNA TESLA TRANSFORMER ...  : )

W

this is my 3 turn jt  and how bright my 4 ultra brights are ... i CAN NOT GET A CLEAR PIC OF THE LEDS ... THERE TOOOOOOO BRIGHT!
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

innovation_station

Quote from: xee2 on December 23, 2009, 12:39:36 AM
@ kooler

There is not much difference in diodes at low currents, so I think it does not matter what you use. I have looked at his circuit and think it is very clever, but it does not seem like the diode across the base coil is needed. I was tempted to build it just to see. But if you are building one, maybe you can see if removing it makes any difference in performance.

i have bedinis that use this DIODE XEE#2

YES IT HAS A PORPOUS.... lol

shall i tell you ?  it recrifies the colpase from the trigger and sends it out with the pulse ....

feed back ?  in a managable amount ... yes i know so.... I BLEW UP METERS WITH IT .. on a demo

filled the room with smoke ... well  lets just say THERE WAS NO MISSING THAT WE BLEW THE METER ... i used this method  a while ago 

never EVER BLEW 1 3055 EVER USEING THAT UNIT AND 12DC SUPPLY .... the unit i sopke of was to be sent by boat over seas or was that under seas lol  for study ...  i never wanted to let it go ....

it was un comoleate ... and rests in the same way i left it ...   there was a big ram on for a unit that will charge 6 bateries from 1  ...  MINE WILL DO IT WITH EASE ...  BUT I NEVER OPENED THAT CAN OF WORMS ... SO WHY SHOULD I FIX RICHARDS BS ... CUZ HE COULD NOT PULL IT OFF....

I WILL NOT ..  HE OPENED THAT CAN ... NOT KNOWING HE WOULD BE USEING MY WORK ....

SO THERE IT RESTS ....   and as far as i know he still cant control it ...

when you run off to get rich your the fool ... lol 



btw xee2 diodes play a far larger roll than you realize ...   i have covered this in the past ....

@ XEE2

what if the result is this ....??????  hummmm what if useing the diode on the trigger induces this effect ...  i will not say it does ... as i never scoped it ..  it is quite possible it does ... 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5FmO55sBAU
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

innovation_station

Quote from: gadgetmall on December 23, 2009, 01:13:40 AM
That is what i thought  ! , I don't know how to make it any clearer . If you look at the Jt circuit  as i posted  and disconnect the bcap an put it in another room  and just have the jt on the table , ok . I use two meters , Double ,triple checked them and they are working properly with good batteries . I simply measure the input current across My one ohm resistor to determine what my circuit draws and leave that ammeter going ,ok , then i put another ammeter across the wires that would normally go to my bcap ,which is the other room :) and i let that ammeter measure that connection  the result is what you see . It is not normal . I won't say anything else about it , this one is Alex's and he can have a go at it but it appears this is outputting 18 more milliamps and about 2 more volts higher than it is using . I can't explain it but this is what it is doing . I must be going crazy and My eyes and camera and everything must be wrong . I swear this is exactlywhat this jt is doing  and so to further test this out before it goies in the morning i put two 30 farad supercaps on it . the run is or was 1.701 and the charged charge cap was 2.000 and i just put a light bulb regulator on it to see what will happen . Of Courase the run cap charged up to equal the charged cap and has stabilized at 2.00 volts for over 15 minutes without a drop . anyways I have no explanation why this exact duplicate of my other Heater Jts is outputting more current and voltage ? No  Idea  . I am tired . and i am so tired of seeing all these weird things i will put it all in Groundloops hands ,give it to him and let his eyes see what mine are seeing . Have i got some kind of power to make this stuff do what it does ? Has God given me something no one else has ? . Well i will have that question answered when Alex has a look .

Peace and good will is all i ask guys . . Please do not flame me for My Postings . I really do see what i see and i am starting to believe what i see and why only a few can do it bothers me . A lot ! I'm not Crazy i don't think.

Thanks for the response Xee2 . i thought the same thing but i want to know for sure so we will see . I'll ask Alex to post his findings  on this Jt and then if he dosnt see it  i guess ill trash my equipment , but i really think he will see what i see and i am sure My expensive Fluke is working percectly as i said i swapped both meters and they read the same within a micro amp:)

Merry Christmas

Albert

Albert

Albert

al a special gift was put in your hand my dear sun!

: )

no worries on your eyes bro ..  you have special skills ...   that is clear lol

did you get any snow .. ?  i tryed to pass some your way ... not sure if it made it far enough.. got close tho ...    lol   

ist!

A CLEAR PIC OF THE ...... IST MINI JT 3 TURN

i should be able to easly tune a secondary to it ... for recharge ... if i do it correctly in winding ... it will be idependent of source ......  la de da ... 

use 1 diode and out to cap common ground ... back to source ...  free light ?  aside the switching cost of the transistor ...

now what about 2 outputs the basic jt light and feed back and seprate recharge ..  yikes on a 3/8 od toride ...  thease are not super bright leds .. there ULTRA BRIGHTS....  and so they are ...

here are a few more pics of a compleated unit b4 i heat shrink it
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!