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Why does mass slow time?

Started by gravityblock, November 25, 2008, 05:31:30 AM

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newbie123

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July 10, 2009, 06:47:48 PM
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on July 10, 2009, 06:32:47 PM
i think you are confused. sr/gr is a theory... one with lots of holes.
List them...   What are the holes?     Just because you can't comprehend a theory, doesn't mean it has holes.. 
Until you can measure it, arguing about something can be many things.. But science is not one of them.

WilbyInebriated

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July 10, 2009, 06:49:23 PM
Quote from: newbie123 on July 10, 2009, 06:47:48 PM
List them...   What are the holes?     Just because you can't comprehend a theory, doesn't mean it has holes..

epr paradox, then see bells theorem. then maybe read a book.

look, it is an empirical fact that we observe a redshift with distance. it is a theoretical interpretation that the redshift is due to a doppler shift / receding velocity, thus the universe is expanding. furthermore, while it is an empirical fact that the velocity of light is always measured to be the same, it is a theoretical interpretation that the velocity of light is constant (a subtle but important difference).
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newbie123

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July 10, 2009, 07:03:47 PM
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on July 10, 2009, 06:49:23 PM
epr paradox, then see bells theorem. then maybe read a book.

look, it is an empirical fact that we observe a redshift with distance. it is a theoretical interpretation that the redshift is due to a doppler shift / receding velocity, thus the universe is expanding...

What do you think is causing the redshifts?  You must have a better theory with even more experimental evidence to back it..

Btw, The EPR paradox doesn't really relate to what we are discussing in this thread...     Are you trying to turn this agrument into QM verse Relativistic mechanics now?  I'm starting to remember our previous conversation and your idiotic troll-like arguments...



Until you can measure it, arguing about something can be many things.. But science is not one of them.

WilbyInebriated

#208
July 10, 2009, 07:07:04 PM
Quote from: newbie123 on July 10, 2009, 07:03:47 PM
Btw, The EPR paradox doesn't really relate to what we are discussing in this thread...     Are you trying to turn this agrument into QM verse Relativistic mechanics now?  I'm starting to remember our previous conversation and your idiotic troll-like arguments...
you asked for holes, don't cry about it...
no, just correcting your mistakes.
There is no news. There's the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater...
the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public.  - Mr. Universe

newbie123

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July 10, 2009, 09:04:13 PM
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on July 10, 2009, 07:07:04 PM
you asked for holes, don't cry about it...

Explain how the EPR paradox is directly related to flaws in GR or and SR...   The EPR was a paper explaining possible flaws in quantum mechanics...

So I'm just calling Bull Shit on you... Not really crying about it..
Until you can measure it, arguing about something can be many things.. But science is not one of them.
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