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Why does mass slow time?

Started by gravityblock, November 25, 2008, 05:31:30 AM

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WilbyInebriated

Quote from: newbie123 on July 10, 2009, 09:04:13 PM
Explain how the EPR paradox is directly related to flaws in GR or and SR...   The EPR was a paper explaining possible flaws in quantum mechanics...

So I'm just calling Bull Shit on you... Not really crying about it..

i explained it in the other thread you are trolling. and as i said there, do you own due diligence.
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gravityblock

Energy/Mass slows Time, which causes Space to be curved around the mass and is gravity.

If Energy/Mass increased Time, then the Space would be curved the other way or curved away from the mass, which would be anti-gravity.

If Energy/mass didn't affect Time, then the Space would be straight and not curved, which would be no gravity.
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

allcanadian

@gravityblock
QuoteEnergy/Mass slows Time, which causes Space to be curved around the mass and is gravity.
Or space may appear to be curved due to the difference in density of space which is gravity not unlike the refraction of light when looking through water.

QuoteIf Energy/Mass increased Time, then the Space would be curved the other way or curved away from the mass, which would be anti-gravity.
If time was constant but the rate of change or oscillation in mass and it's associated field changed with density and velocity then the illusion that time was variable would not be apparent as all measurement devices are made of this same matter and subject to the same effects.

QuoteIf Energy/mass didn't affect Time, then the Space would be straight and not curved, which would be no gravity.
I don't believe time is something it is a measurement of something, if there was no matter could there be time or measurement?. Does it sound more reasonable that the rate of time can change or that our perception of time can change and that the rate of change in mass is subject to change? Is space curved or has a variable density within space bent light producing the illusion that space has curved not unlike a common lens?.

I cannot say any of this is true but I like to keep an open mind about things, as well I think any effects should have a firm basis in nature and not based strictly on mathematics.
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AC
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gravityblock

@allcanandian:

If we didn't use time in our measurements, then I believe this wouldn't be so hard to grasp.  Since mankind is using time as a measurement, then it possibly can't be more than this.....LOL

There is good reason why mass is said to curve space-time in Relativity.  You are correct, the space is not literally curved.  It only appears to be curved because other objects follow a curved path through that space.  Only objects with mass will follow a curved trajectory path.  Anything that is massless would follow a straight path through that space.  As far as mass is concerned, the space is curved.  The space is curved due to the different energy densities in the surrounding space due to the large mass affecting Time.  Energy and mass can affect space-time, because energy and mass is made up of space and time.

As far as I am concerned there is only one force in the universe, and that is Time.  Time, space, energy, and mass are the same thing, they are just different manifestations of each other.  When there are no fluctuations in Time, then you only have Time.  When there are fluctuations in Time, then you have space and time.  When there are fluctuations in space and time, then you have energy.  When there are fluctuations in space, time, and energy, then you have mass.   

Water, ice, and steam are the same thing, just different manifestations of each other, just like space-time, energy-mass.

You can't have space without fluctuations in time.  You can't have energy without fluctuations in space and time.  You can't have mass without fluctuations in space, time, and energy.   <<---- This is the key to understanding the universe.  They are all related to each other.  They are just wearing different hats.

You can't fool mother nature, but it is mother nature who is doing the fooling.
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

Overmind

Time does not slow. It's a wrong interpretation of inaccurate experiments. It's actually the length contraction that is real (Lorentz) and not only observable.