locating Steve Mark´s TPU demonstration house

[Antimon]

EM

Perhaps you could start a new thread: Proof that substantial energy can be captured from power lines without a direct connection.

I'm the biggest skeptic around, but it would be difficult to convince me that SM was capturing electrostatic or electromagnetic energy from the power lines in sufficient amounts to illuminate ten 100 Watt lamps.

Any Ham radio operator or RF engineer will tell you it is not easy or not possible at those power levels.....without frying everyone in the room.

A few hundred milliwatts or maybe if you are close enough and the voltage and frequency are high enough at most a few watts.

Most of the self powered radios that try to pull energy from Multi-Kilowatt AM transmitters can only manage milliwatts of power conversion.

A long time working with power electronics tells me it can't be done that way. Prove me wrong. I'll be happy to debate this issue in another thread or by PM if you feel divulging patents which are already in the public domain rubs you the wrong way.

By the way, you should continue your due diligence and find out the type of power lines (Frequency, voltage, etc) are running alongside SM's  home before making claims. Also they look to be a couple of hundred feet away...at least.

Then we can be scientific and model the field intensity and make a few intelligent calculations

Respectfully...HD

I totally agree with you, but maybe someone can prove us wrong.

In theory, in Stevens devices there is no way to generate voltage in a common way, there is something special.

A.

[wings]

http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/exclusive/wireless_transformer/

"Inventor Hector D. Perez Torres of Advanced Research Knowledge asserts that "power company lines act as a sink for natural-occurring RF radiant energy waves in low to very low frequencies (LF/VLF) from 10 kHz  to  535 kHz."  He said the Power distribution entities know of some interactions between naturally occurring  VLF frequencies emitted from the earth, and that "they invert lines at intervals and place filters and suppressors in line" to counteract these effects.  "Utility companies expend millions in filtering geodesic 'noise' that affects their systems, like in solar storms."

If it is actually a case of tapping into the electricity in the transmission lines, and not aetheric energy being amplified by the lines, what West is most concerned about is that people will make these devices with the specific intent of stealing power from the grid, similar to unscrupulous pirating devices in the wireless world of entertainment. "

[HEYDUDE]

Lets Clarify

Yes you can transmit power through space, this is done in the final impedance matching coupler of radio transmitters feeding power to the antenna. At very close range many thousands of kilowatts of RF (high frequency) energy are coupled. This is electromagnetic coupling. We are talking just a few inches here.

You can also transmit power electrostatically between a pair of oscillating capacitor plates by inserting either a tuned circuit between the plates or another set of capacitor plates that are part of a tuned circuit to draw off the supplied energy.

I have done these experiments, they all follow the inverse square law for radiated power, just like light.

Marco shows a tuned circuit. Can we respectfully ask Marco for the details of his tests and nearfield data, and what he means by "great amounts of power" ?

At 60 Hz the antenna required becomes huge. There are not enough turns of wire on any of SM's devices to provide the necessary 60 Hz resonant circuit loading coil that would be a fraction of a wavelength 1/4, 1/8 etc to efficiently absorb the radiated power. Perhaps with extremely fine wire guage you could get close, but then you wouldn't be able to transfer power to your load, the copper resistance would be way too high.

The ARRL publishes a good book on antenna theory and radiated power: The Antenna Handbook

We have some tests for next spring near our local high voltage overhead lines. They seem to be charging up the wooden bleachers as they run over the ball field and people report shocks from them....mild electrostatic shocks...no real power here. I'll report on that in the future.

Regarding the MIT wireless power stuff.....I'm still waiting for their carbon nanotube battery which will revolutionize the electric car industry....several years now.

I might add that the standards for RF radiation (safe levels) were relaxed by a large margin with the onset of cellphones. The same will happen for nearfield wireless power if they can make a lot of money with it. Your tumor surgeon will likely profit too.

Note to Stefan: Could you start a new thread and move all this power transfer stuff to it? Then we can call on the people who work with RF, power lines etc. to come forth and debate this subject with some real numbers and put it to rest. Thanks

[turbo]

Well you got a point there, my system was running at 35000 Hertz..
The maximum power i send to the reciever was about 4 to 5 Amps but i do not think it will work at 60 Hertz as you suggest.
It was all RF HF transmission and it was powerd from a car battery, so it's not comparable to the power lines nevertheless it worked with small distances.
I do remember the wires had corona effects around them even while the recieving loop was closed, something i had never seen before.

Marco.


EDIT: here is the basic circuit, and the transformers at most powerstations are also autotransformers, so the lines would represent the antenna, and then the idea from EM devices starts to make real good sence.

[EMdevices]

 Just for the record, I'm not calling SM a deceiver,  he has a genuine device that perhaps he did not understand where the power cames from, but if he is smart, and I suspect he is (or was)  he would have quickly eliminated the PROXIMITY effect to the power lines.  Perhaps his demonstration outside was such an attempt.  The frequency of operation may not be necessarily 60 Hz, as wings has said,  other VLF frequencies couple to the long power lines and are "guided" by the power lines.
However, that unmistakable buzzing sound, when he activates the smallest TPU on the glass table, sounds so much like my toaster from the magnetistriction effect.   If you guys haven't figured it out by now I'm sorry. 

Only one person has thanked me publicly for making the efforts I did to bring this public and end this crazy nonsense.  Thanks Marco.

Here's how close his "mansion"  demo-house is to the power lines !!

EM

P.S.  Check out this youtube video:    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DumgUdJhzpo
and this web link:   http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/exclusive/wireless_transformer/

One other comment,  I just remembered what Jack Durban said in his interviews, that SM had him work on power transmission.  Why would that be?  I believe now that SM realized what was happening and wanted to develop or modify the technology to make it practical and/or ethical.