locating Steve Mark´s TPU demonstration house

[jordas]

Hi,

No I did not know this, but I find it very interesting since each pole is just turning on and off at different times, there is no real rotation in space.  Just that objects like magnet rotors can be rotated by the effect?

Do you have any further info on this?  SM did comment about rotation and the speed of light and it could be very relevant!


Thanks,

Dave.

OK, first i don't really agree on the part with turning on and off but hey I'm not perfect 
second, excuse my poor drawing skills it had to be fast and simple.

Hmm, let's see, we have a horizontal coil A and we have another coil(s) C, now let's assume that we manage to create a virtual magnet (i love that) inside the coils (for this purpose would be coil c needed) so that the flux lines are not in the same plane with coil c ,a bit of asymmetry;pos 1 or 2; so that we have now a N pole and a S pole .Ok.You all know that when we now rotate that virtual magnet we don't have any flux changes inside coil A so we don't have any induced current. So far so good.But let's play a bit more.What would happend if the poles are rotating so fast across the circumference of the coils that they would hit the speed of light? it's just a question of right freq and the actual circumference.Now the poles are so damn fast that the coil A just sees a whole field inside itself aka much more flux .Oops. more flux mean a flux change.Evrika.

[jordas]

This Tesla setup?

Yup that one

[CTG Labs]

Hi,

Thanks for your diagram.  I cannot see why you think there is a real rotating field.  We turn coils on and off.  These coils are stationary and so are the fields they produce.  We turn them on and off with a certain phase/timing so that a magnet rotor in the centre can be spun.  But the electromagnetic field is not rotating in anyway.

However I see you have wound coils over a central coil at 90 degrees in your diagram.  The coils changing magnetic field will produce an electric field which will want to push the electrons out the side of the wire.  There will be no net current in the normal direction and these coils will not even know the other is there.

Perhaps I am missing something obvious.

Thank you for your patience.


Regards,

Dave.

[innovation_station]

intresting.... 

i designed a 3 freq/phase quaduture pulse motor   12 n 1 config ..

i will be building it at some point ...   but 4 now i will start easy ... 

3 freq

hope your all happy ...   

cuz im a spinn the damn thing for ya....   real soon...  i like my audio model but we will do it  magnetic this TIME....

just built my amps i have 3 of em at 20w bridged  they can handle 2 ohms but i will run em at 4 ...   so i guess i want impediance matched coils....  could be important    lol

my new controller soon to finish it ...

ist

here is my pic  of my controller  ...   what a time to get this pic here ....   i tell ya ..

[jordas]

Hi,

Thanks for your diagram.  I cannot see why you think there is a real rotating field.  We turn coils on and off.  These coils are stationary and so are the fields they produce.  We turn them on and off with a certain phase/timing so that a magnet rotor in the centre can be spun.  But the electromagnetic field is not rotating in anyway.

However I see you have wound coils over a central coil at 90 degrees in your diagram.  The coils changing magnetic field will produce an electric field which will want to push the electrons out the side of the wire.  There will be no net current in the normal direction and these coils will not even know the other is there.

Perhaps I am missing something obvious.

Thank you for your patience.


Regards,

Dave.

Hmm.I'd say that it's not relevant if the fields are moving or not.Fact is that the resultant magnetic vector is rotating.Agree on that?And in order to have a induced current in a coil you must have a varying magnetic vector inside it.But what you seem not to get is the idea of relativistic movement of that vector.Please excuse me if I'm not able to get into full details on this one.Again take only the vector ,that would be the (Red-to-Blue-line) and rotate it from 1 to 2.Due to relativity the coil A will see a resultant vector that will be the grey line(s).It will happen only at speed c.At this moment the coil will see a field that's actually not there and act as it would be one there.i know it's weird.but it's true.And there's more.Even if the rotating speed is less than c there are other effects involved due to the existence of an external magnetic field.the geomagnetic one.