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Cavitation. The key to overunity?

Started by Pirate88179, November 29, 2008, 10:50:09 AM

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nueview

Hi all
the topic has generated a lot of interest for me over the years so please take what i am to say with a grain of salt there is allot to this topic and allot of proof for it .
the two things i find most interesting about this are that all matter seems to heat at a 642 ohm/circular mill area and the infra red band is at 642 nanometers i think this points toward heat being generated at an extremely small or atomic level or perhaps the basic building level of matter.
if any of you have tried to melt metal you know that trying to melt a very conductive metal requires more work than trying to heat a less conductive one it is because of the energy transfer.
not all materials react to magnetic stimulation for heat in the same manner either different angles are required for each to strip away the negative charge carriers.
friction is a form of this charge motion on a better platform as it seems to add compression to the equation which tends to allow the energy transfer to be held or left behind in adjasent materials. welding is a fine example of this in a more relavent form.
in the case of compression and decompression cooling occurs over a larger area than heating due to the material transfer rates of the materials at hand.
suns only exist above a certain size the earth remains molten at a certian level perhaps for the same reason it should be noted that heat tends to aleave magnetic bonds and cold enhances them as does magnetic field orientation i have found it interesting that i magnet can suppress the heating of substances by its presents to the reaction.

just some things to think about hope it gives some insite.

madddann

Quote from: sparks on November 30, 2008, 08:02:13 PM
    Ultrasonic tanks are designed to produce sonic waves that get out there into the field.  You want the cavitation to happen at the interface of the metals to be cleaned.  The metals absorb the sonic waves just like an atom will absorb a photon or emwave.  The metal then emits it's own wave which will result in cavitation at the metal to solution interface.  This is totally a result of the mechanical resonation of the metal matched to the frequency of the pressure waves.  The cavitation is so disruptive that it will etch the metal if a standing wave is created.  The frequency of the transponders are swept to avoid standing waves in the solution so as not to destroy the metal.  This is optimized cavitation differs from the cavitation that is the product of decreased pressure of a solution saturated with a dissolved gas as you would see on the output of a prop or in a hydraulic solution.  The solution using hydrosonic cleaning is degassed before operation of the tank for efficient transfer of the pressure waves from the transponder to the metal interface. 
     The cavitation of the liquid from the pressure wave hetrodyne results in a vacuum bubble not an expanding gas bubble.  There is no surface tension in a vacuum bubble and chemical reactions on the interface of the bubble will proceed as they would in outer space.  Water will boil rapidly at this reduced pressure and concentrate heat energy from the solution in the region of the vacuum bubble.  Upon collapse of the bubble this heat gain is being concentrated in an ever condensing field and the temperature increases at an astounding rate.  Plasma formation water fracturing and neuclear disintegration are all possible results of temperature rises like this. 
    The energy gains of cavitation boilers may be just the result of lowering the vapor pressure of the fluid so that water boils at a very low temperature in the machine allowing for heat transfer from the ambient field to flow into the system.
This is very simple physics and is used in reduced pressure distillation processes.
Either way mainipulation of pressure to lower vaporization temperatures is the way to go.

So i guess you are talking exactly about this: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6208.0
... I would be very happy to see some comments inhere... I belive that this is the most efficient way to obtain OU, what do you guys think?

...and don't tell me that the inventor is the only person on this freakin planet that did this...

I would also like to share a good video lecture that i came across - its about radionics and vibrational theory (John Worrell Keely's work) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMEpCpzahFY&feature=PlayList&p=A426FDF5BA3CD7FD&index=0

Hope it opens some minds  ;)

Dann

nueview

Hi all
magnetic induction heating is done in many ways since it is not absolute as to there are or are not electrons the discussion would become quite foggy as to the explanation but suffice it to say that a negative charge in oscillation with a positive does not cause heat unless it cuts deep enough to remove what shell of negative is pressent.
electric elements are considered to be 100% efficient and induction and microwaves as well though i would not consider microwaves in the same catagory because they are direct without convection and conduction losses. so lets say that you rotate a magnetic field about a piece of iron the best that you can do is to get so many btu/hp with a standard electric motor but if you generate that horsepower with a more efficient motor then you begin to see overunity but you can't patent it. because you will break the laws of physics.
essentually a plasma arc is this type of negative heating at a much more basic level and this does not seem to be that well understood as of yet i am still working on this myself but believe it has to do with the ratio around the 642ohm/cir mil in a current to tention rate of energy.

thank you all

Koen1

Yeah that's great.
And had we been talking about induction heaters, it would have been on topic too.
But the thread is about cavitation, not induction.

Just to throw my 2 cents in:
- I don't see what is any more remarkable about the evolution of a shrimp which uses the
sonically induced cavitation of its naturally surrounding medium to produce a compact
shockwave that in some cases is strong enough to actually produce a minuscule plasma
flash, than there is about a bird which has evolved to use aerodynamics and currents in
its naturally surounding medium to give its body lift and speed. But then again, there's
many people who seem to have trouble understanding how evolution can shape the
various remarkably complicated mechanisms that we like to call organisms.

- Am I the only one who smells something fishy when people start talking about
Thrapp and his "Amish scientists"? Come on now. Amish scientists? That's almost
like vegetarian butchers or Jews eating bacon. ;)

- Cavitationnally induced fusion is an interesting concept, and if heavy water were
used instead of normal water the plasma inside the compression bubbles might
even be used to fuse deuterium (and/or tritium) into helium. Experiments along that
road have been done (are still being done?).
Problem is, how would we get the energy out? A possible way would be to "simply"
have the miniature fusion reaction dump its energy into the surrounding water as heat
(or mostly heat), then use the hot water to run a turbine or generator.
And that is an idea not much unlike the Chain Reaction movie shows.

So what would we need to do this?
Well, a sonoluminescence setup, so that's what, a quartz tube with pure water in it,
and a speaker arrangement with a freq gen so the right frequency can be pumped
into the tube, and then of course input and output flow valves with a connection to
the generator or heat exchanger.
Then we need a generator that can run off the hot water.
And we need a supply of water to pump around, and preferably heavy water.
Where do we get heavy water? :)

Anyway, get all that set up water and air tight (you don't want to accidentally
inhale heavy water or tritium vapour) and get the sonoluminescence going,
and with some luck you can actually fuse enough of the stuff to produce
excess heat => energy.  ;)

sparks

  The reason we get the light and plazma is because the vacuum condition created by the pressure waves creates an atmosphere where water can boil into the cavity of the bubble.  This heat of vaporization is supplied by the bulk fluid.  Then this water vapor is compressed very quickly on collapse of the bubble.  Now imagine that instead of using sonic waves to lower the pressure on a fluid we use a vacuum pump to lower the pressure on a chamber where surface area is optimized.  On introduction of water into this evacuated chamber it immediately boils.  This is an endothermic reaction which will cool the chamber walls.  The chamber walls act as a heat exchanger and is immersed in an ocean seabed.  The pressure will rise and now the steam is allowed to go through a turbine to a chamber which was pumped down to the same conditions as the first reactor.  This chamber however is insulated and the walls of this chamber are cooled by a heat load.
As the vapor gives up heat to the load it condenses back into water which maintains the pressure differential across the turbine.  The water is recycled back to the ocean heat exchanger and around and around and the turbine goes faster and faster driven by the heat in the ocean.  One pound of water 144btu plus superheat.  One gallon of water about a 1000btu's  1000 gallons one million btus  one million gallons 1 billion btus.  One million gallons is nothing.  It's a good sized water park.  How many gallons in the gulf of mexico sitting there at  seventy degrees ripe for some temperature gain?
   Why is this possible?  Because we cavitated the system to begin with.  So water would boil at -10c instead of 100c. Fusion is exotic but low temperature vaporization is tried and true.  Why drill for geothermal when it's 5 feet down below the surface.  Because oil companies are good at drilling?
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