Cavitation. The key to overunity?

[AbbaRue]

@spinner
A clearly proven Canadian invention that is OU is the "Argon Discharge Tube" .
At least 3 patents have been filed on it and I have personally built and proven it.
The problems with this device are trying to find a way of converting the output to an easy to use form.
And the reason it is hard to replicate is because one needs a vacuum pump and argon gas to build it.
My bigest problem was maintaining the vacuum. 
The longest I could keep it running was for about 30 min. Then I needed to run the vacuum pump again.
Even though it is clearly an Over Unity device it doesn't appear it will ever be practical.
I think this is one thing that we also need to consider as the reason some OU devices never made it to the market.

The cold fusion setup (JLN Labs) spent a lot of time on is clearly an OU device as well.
I replicated it as well and seen what appeared as OU though I don't have the test equipment to verify it.
But my test setup consumed an inch of tungsten rod in about 10 min. of running.
At $3  a rod this is clearly not the answer to an alternate energy source.

But to sum it up the principles learned from these devices needs to be considered.
I have no doubt that these devices are Over Unity but I also have no doubt that they consume something.
I firmly believe that all OU devices consume something so the conservation of energy is intact.
The awsome reality of it is, quoting from an old physics text book from the 1950's 
"One teaspoon of coal consumed by nuclear fusion can produce as much energy as 500 train cars of coal burned."
I can power the rest of my life with a lot less then 500 train cars of coal.
One teaspoon of carbon is about what goes into a 1.5 Volt AA carbon battery.
Powering the rest of my life on ONE AA battery sounds pretty good to me.

[Pirate88179]

Quote from AbbaRue below:

"One teaspoon of carbon is less then what goes into a 1.5 Volt AA carbon battery.
Powering the rest of my life on 2 AA batteries sounds pretty good to me."

Check out my topic "Joule Thief" where I can power a 40 watt 48" tube from a single AA battery. See page here:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6123.330

At the rate we are going over there, I will be able to light my home on dead AA batteries for free. (maybe)

I know this is not exactly what you meant but, at least we are trying to go in that direction.

Bill

[madddann]

@TheBuzz

"I had an old bedini magnet wheel with the magnets on the flat face side (8 coil unit) and I want to see if I can get Thane Hein's thing going on a much more easy to replicate small coil form."

- That would be really great! Looking forward for that.

I can only say that i agree with your theory so far.

@Grumpy

- Your experiments looks very interesting. All of what you wrote only confirms what Bedini talks about (overcharged caps and batteries, no heat when charging a battery,...) but this just can't be the electricity that we use every day, so it has to be the beast that he calls negative energy - radiant energy.

@spinner
@AbbaRue

I find the MAHG even more interesting http://jlnlabs.online.fr/mahg/


Maybe any of you guys could point me to the info about the speed of propagation of magnetic flux in different (ferromagnetic) materials? Anyone saw some chart like this before? Thx


Dann

[AbbaRue]

I just wanted to say my idea of an Over Unity device is really a device that taps into an alternate source of energy.
From all the posts I have read I believe that is the idea of most people on the forum.
I don't think very many people here believe the excess energy comes from nowhere.
So an Over Unity device is a device that uses a small amount of energy to open a portal to another source of energy.
What ever the source. Fuson, Vacuum energy, Aether energy, MHD, Electromagnetic radiation.
We know the Atom is OU, and it's the very fabric of the Universe.
So to the Nay Sayers, please stop insulting our Intelligence by saying Over Unity devices don't exist.
The very fabric of the Universe proves you wrong.

[Grumpy]

@Grumpy

- Your experiments looks very interesting. All of what you wrote only confirms what Bedini talks about (overcharged caps and batteries, no heat when charging a battery,...) but this just can't be the electricity that we use every day, so it has to be the beast that he calls negative energy - radiant energy.

pictures of the results were posted several months ago

It is not the same as what we use everyday, but they are both different states of energy - which implies that one can be converted between the different forms of energy.

Maybe dielectrics can be polarized in different ways, or super-polarized by impulses.