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[Groundloop]

@Chris31,

Thank you for providing the information. I think it will no problem for people
to solder components on the underside of the pcb. So I will leave it to
those that will replicate this circuit to use the extra components or not.

The new circuit does not use mostfets or mosfet drivers so I hope that
this circuit will behave better.

[EDIT] I just saw your resent post. Yes a single side pcb is ok. I have posted the
design files. I have checked that they will open in the new versions of Eagle. If you
want to hep out then just make a new single side board layout. It is too late for me
to do it now because I have already ordered the pcbs. I did not design in ICSP
because I want to keep the circuit as simple as possible.

Thanks,

Groundloop.

[Chris31]

@Chris31,

Thank you for providing the information. I think it will no problem for people
to solder components on the underside of the pcb. So I will leave it to
those that will replicate this circuit to use the extra components or not.

The new circuit does not use mostfets or mosfet drivers so I hope that
this circuit will behave better.

[EDIT] I just saw your resent post. Yes a single side pcb is ok. I have posted the
design files. I have checked that they will open in the new versions of Eagle. If you
want to hep out then just make a new single side board layout. It is too late for me
to do it now because I have already ordered the pcbs. I did not design in ICSP
because I want to keep the circuit as simple as possible.

Thanks,

Groundloop.

Ok I got ya,

I wish I can replicate and help out, unfortunately Im still stuck in getting this plasma ignition controller. Well theres more to it, its more of a small engine ECU really. Based on 18F chip, it was my mistake for not researching hard enough, I could have use the ford EDIS module + camchaft position sensor and be done with most of it. Using pure assembly language was also a mistake LOL. Have just added ignition mapping using RPM + TPS value. I know Ill end up adding an injector too, its taking much longer than I thought 

Good luck and keep up the good work, I hope to join you guys soon 

[najman100]

first one is 50 finished here are the pics
Najman

[TinselKoala]

A thing of beauty!

[wattsup]

Wow, just got home to see you guys are really fast at the draw. I was late in posting this response to @groundloop but will put it anyways in case in rings some bells.

@groundloop

Thanks for explaining the two models.

What I am saying about the flyback is that if you are using let's say two 12vdc batteries in series so 24 volts to drive the coils via the transistors, then the flyback from the coils need a way to return back to the battery source.

What I have learned is the first rule of OU is to recycle as much energy from the source, back to the source. The more you can do this, the less you will rely on added OU coming from the coils and hence the more inclined the device will be to become an OU device.

This is a very interesting stage as I feel this is where the EE world and the OU world often clash. I am not trying to point to you in a bad way when I say this but it is part of our OUer reality that we try to understand the flyback phenomenon and USE it to our advantage, whereas we find that classical EEers look to buffer it out of existence. I have a feeling this is where some of the heat in the components is coming from. Flyback with no good home to return to. This one question or understanding is essential on both the EE and OU end of any project if there is to be both positive results and durable device function.

You can decide to forget the flyback, the flyback will never forget about you. It will always show its face at one time or another and wammo, fry them little suckers. We have seen this many many and many times before. Maybe this time, Tesla is standing by wondering if we will catch it or again be caught.

So, I know you are saying the transistor diode can handle it. For me this is EE talk. The OU talker is saying, hey, I don't want you to handle it, I want you to send it back to the source, period, no ifs ands or buts. This is where if both the EE and OU minds can come together, I know we will have some great results.

Every time I see one of @gotoluc's videos, I see them coils being pulsed and I am only wondering one thing, what about the flyback. I was hoping this thread would then get into the flyback discussion to figure out a strategy to USE it, before any mass circuits are made.

I have been around this forum long enough and have seen many many projects start and stop. When we start, we never think it will stop. We only think it will continue until success has been achieved. But something else I have seen on this forum and that is the dangers that happen once we see a project hit the fifth gear, full steam ahead only to bungle up, then no more momentum left to move forward. Guys, I have seen this enough and am telling you it may be time to take one step back, take a deep breath and think about this very carefully. I am not in a hurry to get a circuit. I can wait a little longer if it will make things 99% certain instead of what I feel is 70% certain right now.

@Najman100

Thanks. I will send you my coordinates. Don't  get me wrong. Regardless of what I say above, I am still an OUer and willing to try anything, but I would have hoped for @gotoluc's sake and ours that the question of flyback be addressed seriously with an honest effort now to accommodate it, rather then running the chance of realizing this afterward.

Whatever, you guys rock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!