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The free energy in CAPACITOR

Started by Tito L. Oracion, December 06, 2008, 06:50:54 AM

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Tito L. Oracion

@ KOEN AND PATMAC

THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO BOTH OF YOU SIR :)

I AM NOW MORE UNDERSTAND THE STORY SIR, THANK YOU.
NOTHING MORE I CAN SAY EVERTHING IS ANSWERED.

I JUST WANT TO GREET YOU BOTH

MERRY CHRISTMASS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! ;)



OTIT.

Koen1

Quote from: patmac on December 27, 2008, 10:00:09 AM
Koen

If that theory is incorrect, explains this:
Whoa there, what theory exactly?
The theory that we can trick a circuit into thinking there is real DC current from a source,
if we can switch a degenerate conductor with relatively long relaxation time from
battery connection to circuit connection just before the relaxation time is reached?


QuoteGo to power station grid of you city, and go to ask, how much thousand volts is transmitting the energy, and think about the answer maybe 100.000 volts at least, look the relatively low AWG WIRE, how that THIN WIRE CAN POWER A HOLE CITY?
Well first of all the wires from our power plants are quite thick, but obviously
a lot less thick then they would need to be if we were pumping DC through them. They can be that thin because we use AC. Surely you know this? AC at higher voltages
can be sent through relatively much thinner cables and over a relatively much greater distance than DC of the same voltage. Classical AC stuff, and exactly the stuff
Tesla was so excited about when he came up with AC. No longer did they need to use cables as thick as a man's arm, but they could now use very thin cables.

As far as I know that has nothing whatsoever to do with the idea of dis- and re-connecting the DC feed
to a degenerate conductor wire of aluminium-doped iron as suggested by Bearden and simultaneously
re- and dis-connecting the actual load circuit, so that the load circuit is never directly connected to the
battery and the battery never actually feeds electrons into that wire.

After all, if that were the case, we would not need to burn coal, oil, gas, whatever to produce the power in those big power plants;
if they would be using that trick Bearden suggests, they would only need to charge a battery to a very high voltage and then
apply this fast-switching trick, and they would not need to burn all that fuel, because they wouldn't need to actually produce
all the current the load circuit (in this case the power grid) would be using.

But I suspect I may not have understood what you meant entirely correctly?
If so, please indicate where I missed your point?
Or pehaps you did not follow what I meant to say entirely?
I'm not sure, but it does seem like we're talking about two different things... ;)

Kind regards,
Koen

P.S. HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL :D

scotty1

Hi all...Here is what Tesla said about the capacitor...

"I would take energy out of a circuit at rates of hundreds or thousands of horsepower. In Colorado, I reached 18 million horsepower activities, but that was always by this device: Energy stored in the condenser and discharged in an inconceivably small interval of time. You could not produce that activity with an undamped wave. The damped wave is of advantage because it gives you, with a generator of 1 kilowatt, an activity of 2,000, 3,000, 4,000, or 5,000 kilowatts; whereas, if you have a continuous or undamped wave, 1 kilowatt gives you only wave energy at the rate of 1 kilowatt and nothing more. That is the reason why the system with a quenched gap has become popular.

I have refined this so that I have been able to take energy out of engines by drawing on their momentum. For instance, if the engine is of 200 horsepower, I take the energy out for a minute interval of time, at a rate of 5,000 or 6,000 horsepower, then I store [it] in a condenser and discharge the same at the rate of several millions of horsepower. That is how these wonderful effects are produced. The condenser is the most wonderful instrument, as I have stated in my writings, because it enables us to attain greater activities than are practical with explosives. There is no limit to the energy which you can develop with a condenser. There is a limit to the energy which you can develop with an explosive."
http://www.pbs.org/tesla/res/res_art07.html

I wondered if a few people could expand on what Tesla says.

Also here.

"Counsel
I understood a little while ago when you made the statement of using several thousand horsepower put into a condenser, you could take out of the condenser a million horsepower. I wondered if you got the same condition with this machine.
Tesla
Yes; I charged the condenser with 40,000 volts. When it was charged full, I discharged it suddenly, through a short circuit which gave me a very rapid rate of oscillation. Let us suppose that I had stored in the condenser 10 watts. Then, for such a wave there is a flux of energy of (4 x 104)2, and this is multiplied by the frequency of 100,000. You see, it may go into thousands or millions of horsepower.

I also liked this part.

"You see, the apparatus which I have devised was an apparatus enabling one to produce tremendous differences of potential and currents in an antenna circuit.  These requirements must be fulfilled, whether you transmit by currents of conduction, or whether you transmit by electromagnetic waves.  You want high potential currents, you want a great amount of vibratory energy; but you can graduate this vibratory energy.  By proper design and choice of wave lengths, you can arrange it so that you get, for instance, 5 percent in these electromagnetic waves and 95 percent in the current that goes through the earth.  That is what I am doing.  Or you can get, as these radio men, 95 percent in the energy of electromagnetic waves and only 5 percent in the energy of the current. . . . The apparatus is suitable for one or the other method.  I am not producing radiation with my system; I am suppressing electromagnetic waves. . . .In my system, you should free yourself of the idea that there is radiation, that the energy is radiated.  It is not radiated; it is conserved. . . ."

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Scotty.




AbbaRue

So he took a 200 HP motor and extracted 5,000 to 6,000 HP from it's momentum.
Charged a capacitor with it and then got millions of HP out of it.
Sounds like a 200 HP Badini motor to me.

Tito L. Oracion

is it efficient if we discharge a little the caps in a coil?

and is it possible if we do it in a sequence of multiple caps?



tito