Magnetic wires as "Free Energy"

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G'day all,

Isn't what you guys are playing with nothing more than a thermocouple?

Hans von Lieven

Hi, Hans!

Yep, The Seebeck effect is a "FE energy", as long as there's a temperature gradient providing the real energy source... Or, Inverse, Peltier-Seebeck....

The modified thermocouple is a thermopile (combining many of thermocouple metals in a "pile"...)

"The output of a thermopile is usually in the range of tens or hundreds of millivolts."

Oops, looks like it will not power Led's....

Ok, the diode arrays are not novelty. And they will not produce any usable "power" or "energy" all by it's own. Johnson's "noise" works only if the diode is biased with another electrical source....
If there's any "DC" detected, it's actually a consequence of all the junctions (wires/semiconductors) acting like a (very inefficient) thermocouple...
Exposure to heat gradient helps a bit, but still...
Far from being usable...

[hansvonlieven]

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"The output of a thermopile is usually in the range of tens or hundreds of millivolts."


Not quite correct. In Russia for quite a while radios were available that used a thermopile as power source. You simply put the thermopile on top of the stove or above a kerosene lantern and off you went. This was meant to service areas where electricity was unavailable and where batteries were difficult to get or were simply unaffordable.

For a rundown on high efficiency thermopiles including a photograph of the Russian Lamp Generator see:

http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/POWER/thermoelectric/thermoelectric.htm#rl

Hans von Lieven

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"The output of a thermopile is usually in the range of tens or hundreds of millivolts."


Not quite correct. In Russia for quite a while radios were available that used a thermopile as power source. You simply put the thermopile on top of the stove or above a kerosene lantern and off you went. This was meant to service areas where electricity was unavailable and where batteries were difficult to get or were simply unaffordable.

For a rundown on high efficiency thermopiles including a photograph of the Russian Lamp Generator see:

http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/POWER/thermoelectric/thermoelectric.htm#rl

Hans von Lieven

OK, the quote was for a "classical thermocouple wires", based on original Seebeck effect....
If one uses a Peltier (plate/area contacts) , then the situation changes...

The "thermopile" with Seebeck or Peltier differs in construction..

Any portable Peltier refrigerator could work as an electrical energy source (if exposed to a suitable thermal source/drain)...

Btw, the Russian site talks about Peltier type devices. Very nice!

[nightlife]

Hans, I think you are on to something with that question. The reading we get from a thermocouple is really nothing more then energy reading. I think Paul has came up with a way to tap and collect the natural energy that is in the parts of a diode. A thermocouple taps radiant energy that is in the air or trapped in matter for us to get a reading and I think Paul has led us to away to use a thermocouples as a usable power source.
I wonder what would happen if we took some common thermocouples and attached a diode to each end of each one and connected them in parallel, if we could create a usable  power source?

I am not sure if that makes to you all but I tried. LOL

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@ PaulLowrance

Check out Tesla's US Patent 381970 "System of electrical distribution" where he mentioned "Winding over the coils with a layer or layers of insulated Iron wire".

It may not be OU but has been related to SM's TPU.

Regards,
Paul