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Homopolar Generators (N-Machine) by Bruce de Palma

Started by dtaker, December 01, 2005, 02:55:54 AM

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Gearhead

Quote from: PulsedPower on February 28, 2008, 02:23:05 AM
Quotedont confuse the 'source' with the field. a rotating disk magnet produces a stationary field.
relative to the field, the disk is spinning.

I have never heard that one before but lets assume for the sake of argument that it is true. What is the field stationary with respect to, the planet the solar system the galaxy?


The fact that rotating the magnet with a stationary disk produces no electrical potential leads people to the conclusion that the field itself is stationary.  This has never been proven even though Faraday did numerous experiments in this line.  Tesla thought that the magnet did not contain the magnetism but was merely distorting the field around it, the ether theory.

It is interesting that when the space shuttle broke a long tether that it glowed with potential so that it could be seen for more than 100 miles due to the effect of moving through the magnetic field of the earth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_paradox
"The magnetic field will be independent of any rotation of the magnet. In this configuration, the polarisation is determined by the absolute rotation of the disk, that is, the rotation relative to an inertial frame. The relative rotation of the disk and the magnet plays no role."

argona369

Quote from: Gearhead on February 28, 2008, 09:24:26 AM
Quote from: PulsedPower on February 28, 2008, 02:23:05 AM
Quotedont confuse the 'source' with the field. a rotating disk magnet produces a stationary field.
relative to the field, the disk is spinning.

I have never heard that one before but lets assume for the sake of argument that it is true. What is the field stationary with respect to, the planet the solar system the galaxy?


The fact that rotating the magnet with a stationary disk produces no electrical potential leads people to the conclusion that the field itself is stationary.  This has never been proven even though Faraday did numerous experiments in this line.  Tesla thought that the magnet did not contain the magnetism but was merely distorting the field around it, the ether theory.

It is interesting that when the space shuttle broke a long tether that it glowed with potential so that it could be seen for more than 100 miles due to the effect of moving through the magnetic field of the earth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_paradox
"The magnetic field will be independent of any rotation of the magnet. In this configuration, the polarisation is determined by the absolute rotation of the disk, that is, the rotation relative to an inertial frame. The relative rotation of the disk and the magnet plays no role."


Actually, it now looks possible (maybe) to have a true one piece
Homopolar generator that I?ve been discussing here,

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/free_energy/message/30766

sm0ky2

want to prove that the field is stationary?
rotate the magnet over another magnet, or over some iron filings... were the field not stationary, the field movement would affect these things would it not?

Tesla may have been right, the eather has never been disproven. Einstein's experiment only applies to light, you can do the same trick using sound to prove that air does not exist...
it has no bearing.

I would tend to agree that the magnet does not contain "magnetism", it contains energy - in its molecular structure - imparted upon it by a stronger field, alligning and amplifying the field produced by its cummulative electron orbits. - which causes a distortion-field.

wether or not this distortion occurs in a vacuum, or through an aether is not yet known. To know that, we would first have to devise a means of distinguishing an eather, that permeates everything.
how would we even go about doing such? would it matter if we did?
I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

Gearhead

Quote from: sm0ky2 on February 28, 2008, 11:10:52 PM

wether or not this distortion occurs in a vacuum, or through an aether is not yet known. To know that, we would first have to devise a means of distinguishing an eather, that permeates everything.
how would we even go about doing such? would it matter if we did?

There may be a simpler answer.  The magnetic field may dislodge electrons that are collected or moved by the centrifugal force of the disk conductor. However, this brings up the question of inertial field of reference.  How does the disk know that it is spinning?  Obviously this proves a connection with the rest of the universe, spacetime or whatever.

sm0ky2

i disagree there, 

i think the disk is moving relative to the magnetic field.
i dont think this effect can occur any other way.


the charge separation on the disk is relative to both the strength of the field, and the rpm of the disk.

so, a disk spinning in free air, WOULD produce a charge - because of the earths magnetic field.
however, the RPM would have to be considerably high.... and may exceed the tensil-strength of some disks...
I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.