Directorly Downwind Faster than the Wind

[sparks]

    What we have here I believe is a machine that gets in between two inertial frames.  Einstein said that all physics is the same in all inertial frames.  The physics involved between two inertial frames is another story. Imagine taking a big top and placing it on a train car that has cogged wheels and mechanical linkage from the wheels to a transmission that drives the top. .  We have all had a top spinning before in the palm of our hand and felt how hard it is to move our hand.  The top resists our motion.  This is not magic this is basically mass in motion tends to stay in motion.  This motion is angular motion and resides in  a rotating inertial frame.  The subtle thing is right under our noses is that the top wants to stay in the spacetime continoum right where it is.  It does not want to move and will resist any force trying to move it.  So we get this top spinning.  We can push the car down the track to get it spinning or we can spin it up with some motor.  As we spin it up if our train tracks run east to west.  Suddenly something happens.  The train car starts moving down the tracks.  As it moves down the tracks the cogged wheels transfer the resistance of the vehicles movement to more angular velocity of the top.  This increases the resistance of the top to any movement.  The train tracks are bolted down to the Earth which is moving at 1000 miles per hour relative to the inertial frame we are creating on the train car.  As we increase the velocity of the top it gains mass.  The mass is gained from the angular momentum transfer from Earth.  Just like the moon gets angular momentum transfer from the Earth and will one day move beyond the gravitational field of the Earth towards parts unknown.  The drag from the moon will no longer be on the Earth and the Earth will stop slowing down.  The train car will appear to be going down the tracks powered by some invisible force when all it is doing is staying put while the Earth is moving.  The Earth is a big gear driving a little gear.  The Earths power or mass in motion is pretty good sized.  It is moving relative to the somewhat static cosmic background radiation at 300km per second.  How much transfer of angular momentum do we need to realize 10's of thousands of miles per hour travel simply by staying put.  A ufo encounter person once asked the ufo pilot what made their vehicle move so fast.  The pilot replied the power of the Earth.  Duh.

[Ted Ewert]

I agree that we have two integrated inertial frames. I also think it's why this thing works at all.
If you take either the prop or the cart by themselves, neither one is self motivating. When the power is removed from the prop on an airplane, it slows down and eventually stops. The same thing happens with a cart.
So, what is it about putting the two together which suddenly provides enough extra energy to accelerate the vehicle?
I spend most of my experimental time building pulse motors these days. Nevertheless, I have done a fair amount of work on mechanical mechanisms which exhibit gain characteristics. What I have found as a general rule is that it it quite difficult to take the output energy of a device and feed it right back to the input and expect it to run itself. What usually has to occur is a delay or a "shuttling" of that energy before it is fed back to the front end. There has to be a time delay of some sort in the loop. I have found this holds true for both mechanical and electrical energy.
This vehicle has an excellent delay loop mechanism between the prop, chain drive, wheels, ground and air. Plenty of time for the energy to get transformed and shuttled around.
Nevertheless, I still think there is a manifestation of energy somewhere along the line which is unaccounted for. Since it seems to be velocity related, I have to go with the prop. Whether it's the Bernoulli effect or not I don't know for sure. But, since the Bernoulli effect is velocity dependent I think it is a good candidate for further study.
It would be an interesting experiment to put a one way bearing (clutch bearing) on the wheel axle. This would isolate the wheel torque from the prop torque. In other words, the wheels could drive the prop but the prop couldn't drive the wheels. This would show whether or not prop torque was a contributor to propulsion. If axial thrust was the only force provided by the propeller, then there would be no difference in performance.
If the vehicle didn't work with the bearing in, then at least the source of extra energy would be narrowed down.

Cheers,

Ted

[Cloxxki]

Over time, I'm starting to understand the cart better.

To respond to some of the above:
- Without wind, it doesn't move. The prop gearing act like a kind of lever to the wind, without force, there is no distance.
- It goes faster than the wind, because energy is extracted at the wheels (which turn at ground speed), and the prop creates thrust from this by milling through air that moves past the cart slower (due to tailwind). There is more thrust than power extracted from the wheels.

Did I post this already? I have an idea how to get airborne with DDWFTTW, without tethers of any kind. It requires tank tracks with so much "traction" on the air flowing under the vehicle, that they act like wheels. The prop is mounted way up high to get in faster winds, where more thrust is to be had. It starts rolling over water (fully boyant tank tracks), and eventually takes off, but stays close to the surface. It will require some tame water, good winds, and especially witty lightweight engineering, but I believe it can be done.

[sparks]

    We always measure wind speed with the assumption that we are fixed and the wind moves by us.  The wind speed when it is calm is moving at a 1000 mph west to east all the time.  As well as 300km/sec  towards the constellation Leo.  We are down wind of Leo and the two of us are heading towards a supercluster of galaxies beyond what is known as the Great Attractor.  The gravity from this dense cluster of matter is pulling the entire Milkyway there.  Since gravity is pretty quick way faster than the speed of light we can assume that this cluster of galaxies is still there even though slowass light is taking forever to get here.  The young cluster of galaxies we are seeing most probably exist as a super blackhole by now long ago gobbling up the hot matter and cooling it down considerably.  Gravity is an accelerating force.  It accelerates stuff aound here a 32feet per second unless you take the moon into account which slows this acceleration down.  Gravity like movement is a relative thing.  The more mass in a given field the more gravity.  To counter all this mother nature in all her wisdom produced antigravity.  This manifests in like charges being repelled.  There is no positive and negative there is just more or less electricity in a substance. The proton is assigned a positive charge.  Why because it has less mass density.  It is quite large compared to the electron yet it has equal charge effect.  This is because it has less mass density.  If it had the same mass density as an electron it would have the same charge state as an electron and would repel the electron.   A blackhole does not gobble up another blackhole.  We see a blackhole gobbling up the less dense matter surrounding the blackhole at the center of each and every star but blackholes are relavent to blackholes.  Once they have stripped the hot stuff it leaves the core of the star which is at the same mass density as the big black hole.  The two black holes then begin to accelerate away from each other on their way to creating new galaxies somewhere else in time and space.  There has to be antigravity or the big bang has to be repeating itself over and over and over again changing just a little bit every time.  Imploding and exploding so damn fast that all we see is minute changes dictated by whatever force is controlling the whole creator frequency.  Of the two sceanarios I would go with antigravity.  At least on the 7th day when the creator takes a snooze.

[TechStuf]

This seems like as good a time as any to interject with a Steven Seagal guitar solo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu0BrJksG10

Of course it wouldn't be complete without capping it off with a crystal nugget of Seagalian gravitational wisdom:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxloUBCYuFM


lol


TS