what about the wimhurst generator?

[Steven Dufresne]

@nitinnun,
Thanks for the passages from D.A. Kelly's book. If the testatika is what Kelly is talking about in his book then I'm quite familiar with it as I've been researching it and trying to replicate it since 2005. See:
http://rimstar.org/sdenergy/testa
Over the years I've found that people either correctly refer to a Wimshurst machine as the specific electrostatic machine that consists of two neutralizers, two collectors and two leyden jars in a specific configuration. Then there are those who mistakenly refer to any dual disk electrostatic machine as a Wimshurst machine. Not only does the tesatika look nothing like a Wimshurst machine, except for having disks, as timselKoala pointed out, it's a lousy design for a Wimshurst machine.

I have noticed the similarity of the magnet circuit with Coler's stuff before. Another correlation is with the Hyde generator.

@Scotty,
Thanks for your videos. I always enjoy looking at your stuff. It's great seeing what others have built, expecially when they're as creative as you.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org   http://wsminfo.org

[nitinnun]

i've been "researching" energy physics.

not the mainstream "hubris-disguised-as-understanding",
but what "i" can figure out, from my own observations on free energy devices.


the horse shoe magnets and magnetic cylinder diode on the swedish wimhurst, "fit together" very well, with my understanding of the physics.
but i have a large amount of "how", to work out.

my intuition says to focus heavily on the horse shoe magnets, and the magnetic cylinder diode.

[nitinnun]

i just got the wimhurst machine that i ordered from images SI inc.
it generates lightning bolts one after the other, VERY quickly,
when the electrodes are 1 inch a part.


but i am confused.....

i measured the electricity on one multimeter, that's amperage setting has always been broken.
the voltage measured 60 volts, at max speed.

then i measured the electricity, with my other multimeter.
and it read 30 volts, at 20 AMPS!


it was my understanding,
that wimhursts normally generated a lot of voltage,
at little amperage.
not a measely 30 volts, at a whopping 20 amps.

is my wimhurst somehow converting excess voltage, into more amps?
as per a transformer?


or is my multimeter extremely inaccurate?

(the multimeter beeps for mercy, when i set it to measure milliamps.)
(which means that the amperage is WAY above the range of milliamps!)
(like it would be, when measureing a battery. which has more amperage, than voltage)

[TinselKoala]

Hah!
You will soon learn to keep your IC-containing equipment far away from your electrostatic machines!

The way to estimate high voltages in spark gaps is to use a "sphere gap" table and some interpolation. For spheres of diameter greater than the gap distance, they are quite accurate. You can figure about 30 kilovolts per centimeter of gap, if the spheres are large and smooth. Less for smaller spheres or "needle" gaps, but still over 10 kV per centimeter. So you might have hooked your DMM up to anything from 30 to 90 THOUSAND volts. That will definitely cause the meter to give you inaccurate readings. For the rest of its life, if any.

[nitinnun]

let me be clearer.


i hooked the multimeter pins up,
directly to the spark electrodes.

so that NO BUILD UP could happen.

so the charges IMMEDIATELY mixed together,
into electricity.


what i was reading,
was the per second RECHARGE RATE,
of the wimhurst.

NOT what the output has become,
after the voltage has built up,
and the amperage has stagnated.

since the charges could not build up to monsterous levels,
and the amperage could not stagnate in the layden jars,
the reading was 30 volts at 20 amps.
which are perfectly safe levels, for a multimeter.


i checked my multimeter on a 9 volt battery, afterwords.
the battery read 8.3 volts, at 2.63 amps.
which is what 9 volt batteries usually read as.

the RECHARGE RATE of the wimhurst, did no damage to my multimeter.
even though the extreme voltage of the BUILD UP, would have.



who told you that wimhurt generators HAVE to be measured, with a spark gap??
the oil companies?

what is wrong, with my zero-buildup method?