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Overunity Machines Forum



Helix Magnetic Motor

Started by The Nephew, April 17, 2009, 03:17:59 AM

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The Nephew

I had rectangular permanet magnets machined to fit in the grooves of the helix. The project has been sitting idle for quite some time now because of financial reasons. This machine was put on paper about 20 years ago, so it has been a long journey.
The only reason why I spilled the beans on this project so early, was because of poster carbonc_cc had spoken of a similar design in another post. So the inventor decided that it would be a good time to make it public and maybe along the way give people a different perspective, ideals...This machine is not finished, as it does not have the full length of magnets running along the shafts. I never claimed that it is OU. Once the rest of the magnets are installed, we will see...
The helix is attached to sprockets, one shaft turns clockwise the other counter-clockwise. Theory behind this invention is that once the magnets are all assembled and the first helix shaft is moved foward towards the other shaft, by way of a threaded rod. The magnetic field will force the shafts to repel from eachother. But being stationary, they will simply rotate in a continious manner. Hoping, I've conquered the notorious flux gate.
What are your thoughts?
I only have a cheap webcam, I surpose I could put up a short video on YT?
TheNephew


Digjam

While the apparatus is in fact a double helix,
the magnetic field is nothing more than a wobble.

gravityblock

Quote from: Digjam on April 18, 2009, 03:54:26 AM
While the apparatus is in fact a double helix,
the magnetic field is nothing more than a wobble.

The key to this possibly working are the counter rotating shafts and the little to no change in the magnetic field.  It is this little to no change in the magnetic field along with the counter rotating shafts that could make this a possible self-runner.

If the magnetic field did change, then the counter rotating shafts would oppose each other and not rotate.  If the rotating shafts rotated in the same direction with a changing magnetic field, then you would have a sticky spot that would oppose the rotation.  No change in the magnetic field means no counter emf, which means no sticky spot.

1)  No change in magnetic field with counter rotating shafts = Rotation due to the magnetic field and counter rotating shafts repelling or chasing each other with no sticky spot and no opposition force between the shafts.

2)  A changing magnetic field with counter rotating shafts = No rotation due to the counter rotating shafts opposing each other.

3)  No change in magnetic field with the shafts rotating in same direction = No rotation due to equilibrium.

4)  A changing magnetic field with the shafts rotating in same direction = No rotation due to the sticky spot.

I am impressed with this design.  I personally don't see why this won't work, but I am wrong most of the time.   ;D

A quick video will allow us to see if the magnetic field is changing or not, and if this change or no change, would oppose the counter rotating shafts.  I believe the magnetic field is changing in regards to the counter rotating shafts, but the field is not changing from our frame of reference. 

I think you have eliminated the problem with getting past the flux gate, but the question is, does this create or cause another issue?
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

The Nephew

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwYi5koSdEc

You might have a better idea by looking at my video, the way the helix rotates the magnets are always synchronized to one another. Sorry bout the bad video, the LCD view on my camera is smashed out.

carbonc_cc

@The Nephew : see my PM.

Very impressive build.  Bringing this one to the top.

Have you played/tested with the magnet orentation (for theory) before building this impressive/costly machine?