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utilitarian · January 04, 2009, 06:27:54 PM

Quote from: PaulLowrance on January 04, 2009, 01:54:13 PM
I appreciate the info and advice Liberty, but how much money would the middle eastern countries lose from such a "free energy" machine? You have heard of hit men, correct? You're aware their are a wide range of hit men, from the cheapos to the high tech mucho expensive. Albeit, there's always an associated risk of being caught, or even leaving a paper trail, but given the last moment, it's probably worth it to save ones trillions of dollars. People have been killed for far much less in the middle east. Although it may appear to be a glorious safe and happy world out there ... who am I kidding, look at the news, LOL. I would give maybe 0.00001% chance of a single person such as myself successfully marketing a "free energy" machine. Maybe an established company such as Sony could pull it off. Heck, maybe even a company such as Steorn could pull it off, but I doubt it.

PL

That's just paranoia. You have already published the entire theory behind your device. Your website is unharmed. No one cares: not the bad guys, not the good guys. Why? Because there is no evidence of any free energy going on. By "free energy", I mean energy created from nothing.

PaulLowrance · January 04, 2009, 06:32:12 PM

Quote from: utilitarian on January 04, 2009, 06:27:54 PMThat's just paranoia.

Says you. Fact: Hit men exist. Fact: Middle eastern countries have trillions to lose with a "free energy" machine. Fact: The middle east has been a hot bed for extreme violence for millenniums. What interest do you have in attempting to deny such facts. What interest do you have to spend so much of your time trying to debunk my research.

Quote from: utilitarian on January 04, 2009, 06:27:54 PMYour website is unharmed.

Hammering a site is not a smart move. It's usually done by pranksters. Although I have had a big problem with data changing on my sites from the beginning, but that went away when I set up various traps. There's a note in one of my peswiki discussions made by a person saying that my data was missing. I've had countless problems with my data changing on my sites. IMO it's a dumb thing to do. Why would anyone want to be so dumb by taking a chance of being caught? They are basically shouting out their intent. I've been a system admin since 1997 on Unix servers. It wouldn't take me and my web hosting company much time to track down the source hammering the site. My stuff is also on Google servers. Google would be all over anyone trying to hammer their servers.

Quote from: utilitarian on January 04, 2009, 06:27:54 PMNo one cares: not the bad guys, not the good guys. Why? Because there is no evidence of any free energy going on. By "free energy", I mean energy created from nothing.

I never said the energy comes from nothing. The energy comes from ambient thermal energy. Please stop continually throwing in misinformation about my research. You know too well exactly what my claim is, that the energy comes from ambient thermal energy.

utilitarian · January 05, 2009, 12:54:26 AM

Quote from: PaulLowrance on January 04, 2009, 06:32:12 PM
Says you. Fact: Hit men exist. Fact: Middle eastern countries have trillions to lose with a "free energy" machine. Fact: The middle east has been a hot bed for extreme violence for millenniums. What interest do you have in attempting to deny such facts. What interest do you have to spend so much of your time trying to debunk my research.

Hammering a site is not a smart move. It's usually done by pranksters. Although I have had a big problem with data changing on my sites from the beginning, but that went away when I set up various traps. There's a note in one of my peswiki discussions made by a person saying that my data was missing. I've had countless problems with my data changing on my sites. IMO it's a dumb thing to do. Why would anyone want to be so dumb by taking a chance of being caught? They are basically shouting out their intent. I've been a system admin since 1997 on Unix servers. It wouldn't take me and my web hosting company much time to track down the source hammering the site. My stuff is also on Google servers. Google would be all over anyone trying to hammer their servers.

I never said the energy comes from nothing. The energy comes from ambient thermal energy. Please stop continually throwing in misinformation about my research. You know too well exactly what my claim is, that the energy comes from ambient thermal energy.

My point is that you have published all this info on how to make your device, and you are not dead yet, and your site continues to post this trillion dollar information. There is really nothing more we need to know to make your device - you have posted it all. We just need to make it on a larger scale. So why is your site still up and why are you still alive? The damage you are doing is as large now as it will ever be. Why have they not suppressed you?

OK, if the energy is not from nothing, then there is a very finite limit to it. We cannot power things on a massive scale using ambient thermal energy. First of all, there is not that much of it, and second, we need thermal energy to live comfortably and not screw up the environment with wild temperature fluctuations. So I do not see how this thing of yours is of much use. I mean it would be nice if instead of air-conditioning my home, which costs energy, I could instead drain it of heat and produce energy. But I doubt there would be that much energy to gain from the process. And to violate the 2nd law, there would not be a drain from the hotter reservoir anyway, so maybe the device would not even be useful to cool the home.

PaulLowrance · January 05, 2009, 09:20:55 AM

Quote from: utilitarian on January 05, 2009, 12:54:26 AM
My point is that you have published all this info on how to make your device, and you are not dead yet, and your site continues to post this trillion dollar information. There is really nothing more we need to know to make your device - you have posted it all. We just need to make it on a larger scale. So why is your site still up and why are you still alive? The damage you are doing is as large now as it will ever be. Why have they not suppressed you?

The answer is obvious, and should go without saying. Do I have a chip that proves it provides useful amounts of power. You already know the answer to that. So why are you trying to hard to debunk these simple facts. No offense intended, but you continually miss the obvious. You would never make a good private investigator, or FBI agent, etc. Grin

We'll never know with 100% certainty the answer until someone invents a "free energy" machine that will provide global free energy. Until then, please do not try to debunk simple facts -->

Again. Fact: Hit men exist. Fact: Middle eastern countries have trillions to lose with global "free energy." Fact: The middle east has been a hot bed for extreme violence for millenniums.

Quote from: utilitarian on January 05, 2009, 12:54:26 AMOK, if the energy is not from nothing, then there is a very finite limit to it.

Ambient thermal energy comes from our Sun.

Quote from: utilitarian on January 05, 2009, 12:54:26 AMWe cannot power things on a massive scale using ambient thermal energy.

Yes we can. One small cubic meter of common matter on Earth has over 1 billion joules of ambient thermal energy. Water has significantly more. That is moot because such technology does not destroy or create ambient thermal energy, it merely moves it. Furthermore, the Sun sustains ambient thermal energy. A stacked diode array chip the size of a shoe box could power an entire company.

utilitarian, you're trying to hard.

PL

PaulLowrance · January 05, 2009, 10:15:49 AM

[sorry, removed double post]