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[nievesoliveras]

@all

What we need to do is very simple.
We need to make a small circuit that uses the energy from the output coil to run a joule thief with an LED without the LED flickering on and off.
If we get the joule thief LED attached to the output coil to light normal, our feedback problem is solved. The motor will run till the battery will not charge and discharge anymore. Maybe two three months or weeks, could be a year. If it is a 1.5v battery, it will be very inespensive to replace.
The use for this pulse motor with the circuit in my case will be to use as the wind on a small scale wind turbine. It will be on a place that seldom the wind blows during the day. When the wind blow it will help the motor and will not harm anything, the motor will be spinning in favor of the wind.
So if there is no wind, the pulse motor is charging a battery bank. If there is wind, the motor will have some help.
I know it is a nice dream of free energy. But we have the right to dream.

Jesus

[gadgetmall]

Hi Jesus . Don't give up yet . If i can do it with a bedini type motor there must be something else . maybe its the Big metal diodes i am using . I git them from a Scrap yard that has lots of military junk . Big univac computers the size of sheds and all kinds of contraptions . Most of what i got i get from there .theres even some magnetic sand (magnetite and Chromium)i put my hands all in it and later the guy told me it was radioactive(slightly) !! I brought a can of it home(outside)to make  some cool(hot) cores for coils dreaming of some reaction i might come up with . . the spot you got the neon lit was that draining the battery  or was it unity ?Also i dont see how a joule thief out put lighting an led is going help now cause it  was determined that those leds can can run on Micro amps . ? As far as My bedinis are concerned i tried and it blew the transistor and led  then again that was expected because i am running with a 12 volt battery charged to nearly 15 volts and the output coil puts out 100's of volts  So with that in mind i need a motor like yours that runs off a 1 volt battery . Now i have seen videos of Newman motors running directly off a 1 volt battery with contacts . I guess this need further investigation because you are having to convert 1.5 to 12 . there is one place you are losing Valuable current the next is the transistor and then how many windings are on you Newman coil and the resistance of those coils . I have already discovered that Thin wire and lots of it will produce more current and voltage . this is evident in My piggy back coil and the fans that were modified . the bigger the windings on the fan in this case causes more back spike current  than the current  takes to spin it . Its funny that a 48 volt fan will run on 6 volts . I tried that too but not in detail like the 12 volt experiment . . anyways i see  a way out  just have to build it and try . It amazes me that an earth battery producing 1.08 volts at 1 ma will run two joule thieves in parallel  lighting up both not too bright but still producing usable light at night when everything is dark i can see .I have several supercaps . they take a very long time to charge on the earthbattery but when they do and i hook up a Jt they are full bright for a minuite or so Hmm.. maybe another circuit to bleed the charge to the Jt circuit .. Well i hope My ramblings are not boring you too much . We can do this on your design .. something will come up ..

[nievesoliveras]

Hi Jesus . Don't give up yet . If i can do it with a bedini type motor there must be something else . maybe its the Big metal diodes i am using . I git them from a Scrap yard that has lots of military junk . Big univac computers the size of sheds and all kinds of contraptions . Most of what i got i get from there .theres even some magnetic sand (magnetite and Chromium)i put my hands all in it and later the guy told me it was radioactive(slightly) !! I brought a can of it home(outside)to make  some cool(hot) cores for coils dreaming of some reaction i might come up with . . the spot you got the neon lit was that draining the battery  or was it unity ?Also i dont see how a joule thief out put lighting an led is going help now cause it  was determined that those leds can can run on Micro amps . ? As far as My bedinis are concerned i tried and it blew the transistor and led  then again that was expected because i am running with a 12 volt battery charged to nearly 15 volts and the output coil puts out 100's of volts  So with that in mind i need a motor like yours that runs off a 1 volt battery . Now i have seen videos of Newman motors running directly off a 1 volt battery with contacts . I guess this need further investigation because you are having to convert 1.5 to 12 . there is one place you are losing Valuable current the next is the transistor and then how many windings are on you Newman coil and the resistance of those coils . I have already discovered that Thin wire and lots of it will produce more current and voltage . this is evident in My piggy back coil and the fans that were modified . the bigger the windings on the fan in this case causes more back spike current  than the current  takes to spin it . Its funny that a 48 volt fan will run on 6 volts . I tried that too but not in detail like the 12 volt experiment . . anyways i see  a way out  just have to build it and try . It amazes me that an earth battery producing 1.08 volts at 1 ma will run two joule thieves in parallel  lighting up both not too bright but still producing usable light at night when everything is dark i can see .I have several supercaps . they take a very long time to charge on the earthbattery but when they do and i hook up a Jt they are full bright for a minuite or so Hmm.. maybe another circuit to bleed the charge to the Jt circuit .. Well i hope My ramblings are not boring you too much . We can do this on your design .. something will come up ..

Thanks @gadgetmall.
It is a coincidence. My coil has 1400 turns divided on two coils of 700 turns each, the wire is 30 awg. That is why it, when the battery is connected and I move a little the rotor, the neon bulb begins to glow with a high pitch sound, then the sound stabilizes and the light stays on until I get the battery off or the battery runs down.
That is a very strange high voltage behavior. Because if I connect an LED to it with the cathode pointing in direction of the output coil, the LED stays brightly light and if I measure the voltage it has less than 3 volts dc.
I think that to finish this project without spending so much money on experiment failures, is to study the electronic theory involved in all the pulse motor operation.

Jesus

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. . the spot you got the neon lit was that draining the battery  or was it unity ?Also i dont see how a joule thief out put lighting an led is going help now cause it  was determined that those leds can can run on Micro amps . ? ..

It was draining the battery.
I have a breadboard with four different joule thieves configurations on it. When I tested it on the feedback circuit, it just flicked dimly at first, then I made some changes and it flickered brightly.
I can make the four diferent configurations including on the four a flash transformer with a neon bulb, with a 1.2v battery and it lights bright.
If I can make that the output coil run that joule thief composition, then I know that the output of that composition can make the booster circuit to work and move the motor while the joule thieves composition is providing feedback to the source at the same time.
Even though the feedback wont charge the battery, it wont drain it either. That is if the JT composition works fine with the pulse motor coil output.

[gadgetmall]

I understand now . thanks ..

[nievesoliveras]

@all

I will experiment with this variation now.

Jesus