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Started by nievesoliveras, December 21, 2008, 11:28:28 AM

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nievesoliveras

Quote from: gadgetmall on February 22, 2009, 09:58:47 PM
or even Better as this wont interfere with your motor . Isolated Charger ?

The battery pack is on a spot that does two functions. It does get charged and it does turn the motor with the charge produced.

Jesus

nievesoliveras

Quote from: Koen1 on February 23, 2009, 06:37:14 AM
Yeah, that may not be a bad idea at all, to seperate the charger side
from the rest of the circuit. :)

Thanks Gadgetmall, you sure are a great source of handy circuits ;D

best regards,
Koen

The battery cannot be removed from the spot it is in. May be it can be removed but, I put it there to get charged and to help the jt with the motor load.
You can put the battery pack on the isolated rectifier if you give it more wire turns in order to exceed the battery pack voltage with the rectified output voltage and not use a pulse motor at all. The motor is doing nothing but spending the charge produced by the JT circuit.

Better is to eliminate the motor, let the battery pack in its place and add another battery pack on the isolated rectifier, after increasing the wire turns number.

Jesus

nievesoliveras

Quote from: Low-Q on February 23, 2009, 06:52:51 AM
No offence, guys!

I am really sorry if I have offended anyone, I truly am! But shouldn't it be possible to question both your statements, results, and the Newman-motor itself? You all hopefull guys MUST take into concideration that someone allways will question your work, and the results. My link was also a link to a guy which was mislead to believe he could make more power than he used. This is a story of a man with several designs, and trials - all of them failed. He has spent lots of dollars on his project for nothing. You should sure respect those experiences as well!

I think this thread is going a little bit out of hand. However I whish to state my views, and share some infrmation, guide people with the help of some common theory and practical experimnts. If a blind man is walking with his stick towards a steep cliff believing that he is walking safely, wouldn't you try to guide him in another direction? At least tell him a few hints that this particular diection isn't doing any good? OK, I know this is just theory, so maybe that man knows that the power of space will help him walking in thin air? And sure he well walk in thin air - but just for a while. For sure he will stay in the air for quite much longer time with a parachute - WHAT AN ACHIEVEMENT! And then, by help of his friend, he will post his achievements on YouTube. No offence!!!

I understand Jesus, and how he works hard to obtain something with his Newman motor, but nothing in the design can tell me anything about the possibility to OU, or ability to charge a battery pack to more CAPACITY than it takes from the 1,5V AA cell. It WILL charge more than the 1,5 volts, but I'll explain why later in this post.

The switches for the motor itself helps generates high voltage every time the switch is turned off, due to the fact that you are rapidly turning off the magnetic field in the coils. The charge you then get is a result of built up magnetic field in advance by the 1,5V AA cell. I also believe the amps is quite high in a moment too - much higher than continous drawn from the AA cell, but the TIME that high power output is lasting is extremely short. As you stated. It is about amps, voltage and TIME.

We must focus on the net work done in the circuit. 1 watt (U x I) in 1 hour (TIME), do the same work as 3600 watts in one second. I know physics quite much more than well enough to make a statement, but ofcourse, I do not know everything.

I will try to be more open minded regarding the "impossible", but you guys should also be more open minded to the "possible".

Br.

Vidar

I understand what you are saying.
But I never claimed OU. What I said is that I was having tremendous success. The success was that the batteries were charging and the source batteries were not discharging. They were fluctuating up and down between two numbers for two and a half days.
I know that there is nothing connected to the source battery in order to receive feedback and produce OU. But it seems that a toroid coil made with a bifilar cable that is covered with aluminum and plastic, with a bare wire and a covered wire together on that cable configuration, produces an effect that makes the source batteries undecided of the voltage direction to go. I mean charge or discharge. It stays fluctuating its voltage between two meter values.

Remember, I may be wrong though.

Jesus

Low-Q

Quote from: nievesoliveras on February 23, 2009, 07:24:21 AM
I understand what you are saying.
But I never claimed OU. What I said is that I was having tremendous success. The success was that the batteries were charging and the source batteries were not discharging. They were fluctuating up and down between two numbers for two and a half days.
I know that there is nothing connected to the source battery in order to receive feedback and produce OU. But it seems that a toroid coil made with a bifilar cable that is covered with aluminum and plastic, with a bare wire and a covered wire together on that cable configuration, produces an effect that makes the source batteries undecided of the voltage direction to go. I mean charge or discharge. It stays fluctuating its voltage between two meter values.

Remember, I may be wrong though.

Jesus
Hi,

How did you came up with the bifilar, aluminumfoil covered toroid wire?

Did you meant that the source battery voltage is fluctating, or is the voltage fluctating up and down between the source battery and the charged battery?

It is great that you can charge a battery from a sourche which is not decharging (It will keep me awake for a few nights thinking on how this is possible). So if you place a volt meter over the 1,5V battery, it will read 1,5V for two days straight without sign of voltage drop while you are charging the other battery (Unless the source voltage is fluctating)?

Can you place an amp-meter in series with the source battery, and do the same with the charging battery? Just to see how much amps there is flowing through these two batteries (Considered the knowledge about the voltage over each battery). If you have an "average-switch" on the two meters, you can for a period of time see the average current drawn from the source, and the current which is charging the other battery.

If you have time, you can also make a watt-meter. You can find these analog "bulk" meters on ebay or something. The needle in this analog meter is driven by an electromagnet in stead of the moving magnet you find on analog amp, or volt meters. The stator is also an electromagnet (As usual). So you will never read any values unless you have input on both electromagnets. Basicly it is both an amp-meter and volt-meter in one operation - also with at least three wires for measuring both amps and voltage at the same time. The scale is therefor logarithmic. Perfect for reading the power in true-time.

I hope you don't think I'm fooling now. I'm serious about these questions and ideas.

Br.

Vidar

nievesoliveras

Quote from: Koen1 on February 23, 2009, 06:54:36 AM
Do you mean that it is annoying when you post your findings and strangers
jump in and start questioning your findings and start telling you why what
you reported is impossible, that kind of thing?
I can very well imagine that such experiences can be enfuriating.

And there's more parallels with Stiffler's work if I am not mistaken...
You use a wire that is bifilar with an aluminium coating around it,
a "computer wire", as you called it in the thread... Am I correct
in thinking you are talking about a single isolated wire with a second
wire wound around it, with a thin aluminium layer wrapped around these?
Stiffler, as I suppose you know, uses something similar, he often
uses capacitors wrapped in a layer of aluminium or wires wrapped
in such a layer.

I was wondering if we can do what you're doing here with a JT instead of
newman-like setups...?

In any case, nil illegitimi carborandum my friend :)
lol no they probably were not ;)
lol
and they went quiet :)

Best regards,
Koen


@koen1
Thank you for your participation on this thread.

Jesus