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DC electricity and Frequency?

Started by Magnethos, December 21, 2008, 01:18:33 PM

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Magnethos

I have post some information in other post here inside the Half-Baked idea, and I think we're not measurint the energy frequency, we're measuring other component of the energy and we think we're measuring the own's electricity frequency. I say this because since electricity is ElectroMagnetic energy, if we change the frequency of the electricity, the colour of the spark must change too. Electricity is inside the visible light spectrum because we can see it, of course, change the frequency and electricity colour MUST change. In practise, this doesn't happens. But I have seen different sparks colours. I think we're changing the frequency of the positive-negative voltage oscillation. But not the electricity frequency. For that reason, DC electricity has not Measurable frequency because voltage in DC is not oscillating. But DC has a frequency.

Very usefull information what you say about gamma rays. I think that could be coming from Cosmic rays, maybe... cosmic rays have an extremely high frequency and they are radiating all the universe all time.

You have reply to that post about what we're really measuring. I will reply to your message right now in the other post.

Alien509

Quote from: Magnethos on December 21, 2008, 01:18:33 PM
If quantum physics says that Energy is only frequency... and we know all in the universe has a resonance frequency... it's impossible that DC electricity has no frequency. I'm sure that DC electricity has some kind of frequency. maybe a very very low frequency (0.000000001 Hz i.e.) or maybe an infinite frequency, but I'm sure DC electricity has not 0 energy.

I don't care what common electromagnetic energy books says, they are wrong or incomplete.

Anyone have read something about this?

Dc electricity has a frequency that is *usually* not predictable due to the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle. System(s!) that solve the uncertainty principle unleash the potential energy of the universe. Dc electric frequency can not be adequately measured with oscilloscopes because the system power output conforms to a narrow frequency distribution, which corresponds to the bi-directional movement of the involved atoms. Both the measurement device and the generator in this case determine the wavelength of the induced corresponding electric field.

armagdn03



With reference to DC current given from a battery, the frequency would be related discharge portion of the Hz cycle. The battery is charged, energy is stored in the separation of a stable chemical compound into electrically separated chemicals.The recombination of the chemicals into a stable state (dead battery) causes an electrical flow, which is then discharged into a load. The discharge time being a function of charge stored, and resistance to the flow of current. To think of it as extremely fast frequency current is incorrect, it is extremely slow. If one were to to only see an extremely small portion of a very large AC wave, one which may last years to complete one cycle, it would look as if it were a relatively constant current, though it is not, it is decreasing in time.

I wish I could turn my brain off sometimes, then I could get some sleep.

jadaro2600

If DC has frequency, then it, like all other measures, are relative atleast to two things: itself, and one other thing ( the observer ).  When a measurement of hertz is made, it is in cycles per second.  One second is a measurement of time:  "The second is the duration of 9 192 631 770 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of the caesium 133 atom."
from http://www.bipm.org/en/si/si_brochure/chapter2/2-1/second.html.  This measure taken at 0 Kelvin.

A very high frequency obviously.  If AC oscillates and DC does not ...

Then think about superconducting materials and their ability to maintain a virtual current - which would have to be DC.  If a magnet can be held motionless ( relatively motionless ) above a superconductor because the magnet is creating a current in the superconductor relative in such a way as to oppose what it is creating.  Diamagnetic properties, etc.  It is as if a three winds are blowing, and two are blowing in such a way as to create a calm in one area relative to the three, while the strength of the third wind is weak relative to the other two.

I say three winds, because you have the general relativity of the environment, plus the magnet, along with the superconductor.

If DC has a frequency, it approaches either positive or negative infinity in a similar way the in inverse function of tangent does.  Having zero frequency, in this instance -( a measure of hertz, said relative to some atom already with frequency )- would indicate, not that DC has frequency, but that DC has congruent frequency when flowing, ie the frequencies are the same.

I would have to conclude that that actual frequency of DC is physically congruent while it actual measure is an inverse function of tangent relative to that which it conducts through.

Recall Peltier / Seebeck devices: IMO if the DC current is congruent, and it passes through two different elemental paths, then a heating or cooling effect is created along one of the paths in a similar manner that fluid/gas compression creates cold and hot due to the DC current being different in the circuit relative to it's own reference frame.

Aditionally, IMO, i think the notion of an electron is silly - all atomic divisions, aka, elements, are simply stable larger versions of the one unit which is ultimately the most stable ( hydrogen ).  Our measure of the electron being a measure of the relative stability between atoms and their interactions which yield differences that we measure as electrons because we have to use atoms to measure these differences.

To summarize: the frequency of DC is both ( as ) fast yet relatively slow.

jadaro2600

Quote from: jadaro2600 on December 27, 2008, 02:13:27 AM
...The second is the duration of 9 192 631 770 periods of the radiation corresponding to the ...

I find this number to be less than but really close to th US national deficit.  How ironic.