Coil Questions.

[sg56k]

 ???Soo , I have so far had 220 views on my questions, and it would seem the ??'s are of little interest. Is that about right? I thought, yea, these are pretty relevant things to think about to accurately diagnose what it is we are all here trying to replicate. Yes? Or maybe these questions are to stupid or something to bother answering. I can live with that. Input? sg56k

[BEP]

There are plenty of opinions on all of your questions. I'll supply mine....

Hi, First post here. I tried to find the answers to these questions but after several days of looking, I am unable to satisfy myself. Any thoughts appreciated.
1. After viewing all the vids. as well as reading the FAQ's and the SM Compilation. I was wondering if the TPU demonstrated in the garage by SM was a first generation unit as it seems to be built  a lot different than the units demonstrated to the group at the mansion. As I have read about the 3 coil stack type setup described by SM, it seems the garage location unit was not made that way.?  Just wondering which design to pursue.

The two-level, open TPU was a variation on a theme. The variation seemed to be a change in active element axis. In other words, you could stand it on edge and the coil layout would be almost the same as the earlier toroids. I see it as having solid-state minor circuitry with coil firing done by vacuum tubes. (I see them but no one else does). I think this TPU is a mixture of technology so it is difficult to place it on a time scale.

2. In all that I have come across here at this TPU forum, it has convinced me that shielding of unit during testing is essential towards a safer and happier life. Soo. What would the reason be that all units showed and demonstrated on the SM vids. do not seem to require this shielding or bother anybody during operation.?  Is there no RF emissions of these units? Even the vid cameras seemed to work well when near these operating units with no apparent vid  loss. What really surprised me was the lack of interference during the arc demonstration.   

The cameras were not digital (like current cameras) so it does not surprise me when I see little or no interference.
It is very unlikely there was much RF emission except from the low power driver circuits (on some). The majority of the measurable forces would have been magnetic and almost all of the energy movement would be vertical. I wouldn't stick my head above or below a working unit but the side wouldn't bother me. Neither would handling one by hand.

A D.C. arc from a welding machine will screw up the audio of a camera from that time but a steady arc from a high voltage battery would not as badly. What you see is the reason why I understand the output coil has no direct electrical connection to the rest of the TPU and it encircles the vertical current funneled by the TPU. Under no load the voltage would be a ratio of 1 (the vertical current) to the number of turns of the horizontal coils. Under load (something much lower in resistance than ionized air) the output would be a constant voltage because the load is supplied by the vertical coils instead of the horizontal portion of the same coil. Doesn't make sense? Lookup Rogowski coils.

3. Has anyone preformed the suggestions by SM as to the rotating magnetic field and at what freq. that it may change.

There is a lot of forum history on this. Many will say 'yes' and give you frequencies. S.M. didn't say 'rotating magnetic field'. A rotating magnetic field would be cool for many but a foolish waste of time. What is clear to me is the RESULT must be as if it was caused by a rotating field. AND not in one axis only.

4.  It seemed to me that the SM compilation was pretty sure of the 3 coil stack setup. Has this been actually tried by anyone yet?
Answers to these questions will help in my research of these amazing units. It will be a while yet before I build as I still need to read the Tesla book mentioned by SM as well as researching a bit more about the tv tubes mentioned.  Thanks again. sg56k

Again, lots of forum history and many will say they have. I'm quite sure there have been some coils made that should have worked if we understood exactly how a TPU should function and built control circuitry according to that function. Unfortunately, most are into high power and bloated electronics.

[innovation_station]

I see it as having solid-state minor circuitry with coil firing done by vacuum tubes. (I see them but no one else does). I think this TPU is a mixture of technology so it is difficult to place it on a time scale.


lol

you do,,,,,   i bet the tubes are neons ....    acting as vacume tubes....

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[MACEDONIA CD]

hi all

THIS  VIDEO CLIP OF YOU TUBE <,:::::    IS   reciver of some    radio or elktromagnets fild  clouse to this  small toruse   coil  <<if this coils torus is tune   to this  and get max. resonance  then  we whill see  conversion  device

is sosimple ist...  THE NATURAL OF ENERGY OUT IS  ALLWAYS THE SAME <<<
<<< we allways need two input   source  and  whit this two input source  we get out energy>.
IST NO MATHERE HO OF THIS TWO INPUT ENERGY WE WHILL INCREASING WE  WHILL ALLWAYS  GET MORE OUT ENRGY

EXPLANE  IF TAKE  THIS  <,ELKTRICK MAGNET FILD like  one input energy  ,,,,,, 
                                       <, AND PERMANENET MAGNET LIKE SECOND INPUT ENERGY
                                       <,AND  WE GET  MORE OUT ENERGY
WHIT THIS  I SAY TO YOU  THE  ENERGY WE WHILL GET NOW FROM THIS KIND OF DEVICES WE HAVE  NOW  IN ALL WORLD IS MADE FOR   GET MORE ELKTRICS COURENTS  TO MAKE  FOR OUR PORPOSE  WE PUT ELKTRICS INPUT MORE TO  GET OUT ENRGY

this is very wrong  <<WAY WE  PUT ELKTRICS INPUT ENRGY  WAY WE DONT PUT MORE MAGNET FILD  TO OUR MACHINES
REMEBER UP THERE I HAVE SAY  THAT WE  HAVE ALL WAYS NEED TWO INPUTS ENRGY 
IF NOW REPLACE THE  PLACE  OF ELKTRICS TO  MAGNETS THEN WE GET  THE extra out energy

        2 + 1 = 3

  2... is  one input energy<<elktricscourents>>
  1....is second input energy <<magnet >>
THIS IS FOR MEXANICAL  ENERGY OUT

FOR T.P.U  IS THIS

       2 + 1 = 3

   2 ....is one input enrgy << elktricscourents>>
   1.....is second input energy  <<speed  of magnet fild>>

yes we know this  we increas the speed but we make  ALL TIME MYSTAKE 

resonance and tune properly coils
that is error i see here  many tpu whit some many diferent  frekfency input and still no have   more then input energy  WAY
<<ELTRICS COURENTS IS STABLE  AND IS THE SAME  NO NEED TO INCREASE  WE INCREASE THE SPEED  AND NOTHING
WHERE WE MAKE ERROR

[MACEDONIA CD]