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Conventional physics does state it's possible!

Started by PaulLowrance, December 24, 2008, 01:40:46 PM

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So, that's what Steorn was trying to demonstrate with that tiny 'paddle' wheel on jeweled bearings?  Basically what you've already demonstrated via solid state?


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I don't know if Steorn's released their design or not, so all I can say is that their claim to magnetic viscosity being the secret is a match to my magnetic theory.  Magnetic viscosity is only used as the tool. It's the tool to allow the device to change the *effective* magnetic structure before the magnetic material has the time to respond.

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Quote from: PaulLowrance on December 24, 2008, 01:40:46 PM
The mathematics of conventional physics does show that a "free energy" machine that captures ambient thermal energy (that exists in *all* matter) is possible. Conventional physicists say it's impossible because of the laws of thermodynamics. Although, conventional physics acknowledges that the laws of thermodynamics has an associated error rate for common simple elements such as gas, and is by no means meant for a microscopic scale analysis. For details please see -->
http://greenselfreliantenergy.com/physics/
Laws of Thermaldynamics are still the best tool we have when dealing with the "reality" like a heat transfers we currently know. Tapping a heat reservoir without the necessary heat difference (NO POTENTIAL between the source/drain) is the same as tinkering with the ZPE. Or tapping the intrinsic motion/energy in the atom... Science cannot definitely say it's impossible, although our currently valid thermodynamic "laws" are strict about it. NO GO. Needless to say, there is no devices which would show the opposite. But this can be changed instantly!
If you have a indisputably working concept (Oh, yes, you have) which UNDOUBTEDLY shows, e.g., a "Maxwellian daemon" in reality, than you are the winner!
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Other areas of conventional physics clearly shows that it is possible to capture ambient thermal energy. For example the best small signal semiconductor mathematics clearly shows that diodes must rectify Johnson noise. One cubic meter of copper contains over 1 billion joules of energy from the free electrons in such copper. Johnson noise is sufficient, and it's continually sustained by the Sun, solar energy.  :D
Which areas of conventional physics shows that ambient energy can be "exploited" without some kind of potential difference? Johnson noise (we discussed it previously) happens in each and any el. conductor. Why don't you use e.g.,  an resistor array, which would yield to even greater effect? Ah, because of the diode rectification. So, what do you think about my proposal, to use a bipolar transistor arrays instead of diodes? (connect E+C, the base is the other electrode?) It was confirmed to give a lot more of thermal noise than a common diodes. If biased, of course...
1m3 of copper contains trillions and trilllions of Joules of Energy in an atomic scale... Too bad we don't know how to exploit it yet... A piece of copper (1m3) would cover all the energy needs of the humanity for quite a while.... You know, E=mc2...
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So to be accurate, we cannot say that conventional physics says it's impossible to capture ambient thermal energy. It's merely an interpretation, and an interpretation that ignores small signal semiconductor physics while accepting the laws of thermodynamics which is not meant for microscopic effects such as the thermal energy of free electrons.
PL
Yep, for the moment it's "only an interpretation" (ok, it is still working quite well in the practice). For sure!

Paul, the idea about using a diodes for the rectification of a Johnson noise IS OLDER THAN YOU...

To validate it, one would need a definite proof ... Not just in the form of a "theory" or some milllivolts and microAmperes coming from the many diodes, array. The values can originate in many other electrical effects... (measuring error is the first which came to my mind.... no matter what you do to prevent it)

If you could present a believable theory, I'm sure you could get ANY(!!!) microelectronics company who could make the prototypes for you INSTANTLY! Dealing with a low tech type components, it should be very simple.... A few hours of engineers work with a suitable equipment....
Some member(s) did propose to you that you should contact Universities / their labs...

So?
"Ex nihilo nihil"

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         Something that appears as cold is not always without heat potential.  Pipe filled with ionized gas in a binding magnetic field would appear to have very little heat in it at all.  Alot of spin but not alot of vibration.  Heat would therefore spread into the field of the gas with little resistance as the gas temperature would appear very low.  The heat then converts to spin velocity of the ions and they go faster and faster but still appear quite cold to the ambient media.   Now move the spin field bulk to location 2.  Let the spin velocity of the ions convert to vibrational mode and temperature rises where we need the heat.  No thermodynamic laws broken at all.  Endothermic at point a exothermic at point b.
        Also consider an absorption refrigeration system like used in an RV.  The ammonia gas is heated and causes a low density area and allows the refrigerant to vaporize.  Then it flows by gravity to a heat exchanger where it releases the heat to wherever you need heat.  Heat producing cold. 
       And one last one. Ocean Thermal Energy Conversion.  Big one being tested in Hawaii.  You really don't need the cold water well they have in use because pressure of the vaporizing gas can drive a turbine to drive a compressor to use the air for a heat sink.  Basicallly you could do the same thing in the desert and bury a pipe where it stays 50degreeF with a surface temperature of 200degreesF or more if you want to put some black rocks out in the desert somewhere and a little aluminum.  Make it reversible so at night you get the same deal backwards.  Fuck pumping the oil and start pumping the heat!
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Hi Sparks!
I always read your posts even though they're not always in accordance with "my beliefs"... Thanks for your positive & nice attitude!

You are really a great tinkerer, and by far one of the most patient ones. You never get yourself being dragged in a nonsence accusations and bashing. You must have an "iron" nerves! ;)


Quote from: sparks on December 25, 2008, 07:33:38 AM
         Something that appears as cold is not always without heat potential.  Pipe filled with ionized gas in a binding magnetic field would appear to have very little heat in it at all.  Alot of spin but not alot of vibration.  Heat would therefore spread into the field of the gas with little resistance as the gas temperature would appear very low.  The heat then converts to spin velocity of the ions and they go faster and faster but still appear quite cold to the ambient media.   Now move the spin field bulk to location 2.  Let the spin velocity of the ions convert to vibrational mode and temperature rises where we need the heat.  No thermodynamic laws broken at all.  Endothermic at point a exothermic at point b.
        Also consider an absorption refrigeration system like used in an RV.  The ammonia gas is heated and causes a low density area and allows the refrigerant to vaporize.  Then it flows by gravity to a heat exchanger where it releases the heat to wherever you need heat.  Heat producing cold. 
       And one last one. Ocean Thermal Energy Conversion.  Big one being tested in Hawaii.  You really don't need the cold water well they have in use because pressure of the vaporizing gas can drive a turbine to drive a compressor to use the air for a heat sink.  Basicallly you could do the same thing in the desert and bury a pipe where it stays 50degreeF with a surface temperature of 200degreesF or more if you want to put some black rocks out in the desert somewhere and a little aluminum.  Make it reversible so at night you get the same deal backwards.  Fuck pumping the oil and start pumping the heat!

Yes, the Einstein's fridge is an interesting gizmo... You provide "heat" to "chill" the things... Although I'm not sure if gravity is involved in the process?

Yep, "Fuck pumping the oil and start pumping the heat"!
Hear, hear!
(My car would not be happy, but nevertheless...)

Cheers!
"Ex nihilo nihil"