Tesla's Flying Machine

web · December 01, 2010, 03:06:06 PM

Thanks for your thoughts. Maybe I'm not being clear enough or understanding properly - its confusing to try and explain. If you consider the photo where the device sits on a black disc. When the motors are added to the device and switched on, then the weights all swing round, and with their peculiar arrangement, produce a horizontal wobble, but not a vertical wobble. The wobble is circular, say for the sake of argument its clockwise. Now, imagine if the black disc were allowed to rotate and you spun the whole device anticlockwise at the same rpm of the wobble, then the unbalanced force that causes the wobble would appear to point in one direction (relative to the floor on which the black disk sits). Now, if the black disc were supported on wheels, would the entire device plus revolving disc not move in the direction the force was pointing?. If so then the big idea then would be turn the whole thing on its side and arrange it so that the force pointed up to lift the whole device off the floor!. Maybe I just need to make it and see !

Magumbo · January 08, 2012, 06:48:23 PM

Quote from: e2matrix on February 27, 2010, 08:21:04 PM
Okay this is fascinating - partly because I remember many years ago coming across someone I read about who had built a small saucer of sorts - maybe 4 or 5 feet in diameter. If I recall it used 2 or 3 gyroscopic devices -- and I'm very fuzzy on the details here (I may have info saved on another computer) but I believe there may have been offset concentric gyro's - one within another. Anyway supposedly the man got it running one day and it lifted off higher and higher and the last he saw it - it was still going higher never to be seen again.

So I'm trying to wrap my head around what you have said Magumbo but there are so many possibilites I have not yet come up with anything that seems to work in my imagination. I think it may involve 2 or 3 offset gyro's but not nearly as much as the ones in Tesla's drawing. Or maybe one is not offset and another is. Have you built or seen a working model of this?
If it is this simple and also if it is usable I would assume at least our military would have such a device by now. As far as I know it does not (but then what do I know other than Internet rumors and that I haven't even seen one on anything like this).

Yes, it has been built - and it works. "I think it may involve 2 or 3 offset gyro's".... You're dead on target. Now think about what those offset (and interconnected) gyros can accomplish when the outer spin of the second gyro furthest from the first gyro's axis has more force than the inner spin of that same second gyro that is located within and offset to the first.

The answer was just given.

-Magumbo

Magumbo · January 08, 2012, 07:20:40 PM

...and the world was taught how to fly.

Now go and build.

web · January 12, 2012, 04:19:04 PM

Over the time for one complete cycle of the combined gyro and hammer rotations, if you were to sum of all the force vectors at every moment over that time, then the resultant force vector must be a positive value pointing upwards for lift. Can you explain how you see that happening?

Magumbo · January 12, 2012, 09:39:06 PM

Quote from: web on January 12, 2012, 04:19:04 PM
Over the time for one complete cycle of the combined gyro and hammer rotations, if you were to sum of all the force vectors at every moment over that time, then the resultant force vector must be a positive value pointing upwards for lift. Can you explain how you see that happening?

The force against the mass of the hammer is greater on the out-swing (further from the axis - out and up) than on the in-swing (closer to the axis - in and down) due to the force generated by the rotation of the first gyro. The greater the distance from the axis of the gyro the greater the force of inertia on the mass. If the mass lies directly on the axis there is no force upon it at all. At the point the greatest force is applied to the "hammer" (mass) it is rotating and pulling "up".

Tesla stated that "the inherant properties of the engine itself creates stability without aerodynamics, propellers or any other visible forms of propulsion." He also stated that you would not guess that it was a flying machine by its form. This is a very simple redirection of rotationally generated force. When that force (increased/decreased by rotation) is equal to or greater than the force of gravity you have lift.