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Cavitation: Is it the key to alternative energy?

Started by Grumpy, December 31, 2008, 08:49:22 PM

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       A plasma has coherent assembly of neuclides and electrons.  I think there is energy gain just creating plasma.   If the ionizing scource is coupled with a magnetic field which controls the electron acceleration then the energy stored in the electron proton field converts to the electron current in the plasma.  This is a selfperpecutaing current within the field of the plasma.   The conveyor chain of electrons allows for it's superconducting properties.  A conductor is a plasma.  The electron cloud forms on the skin of the conductor where we find most if not all the energy flows in a conductor.  This electron cloud is a negative plasma with the core of the conductor with a greater percentage of ionized copper (conductor) atoms.  The problem with this plasma is that the electron cloud is static and needs an outside force to turn it into an electron conveyor belt.  This is not to say that this electronic cloud isn't a good field to send some scalar waves through.  The cloud will act just like air molecules do with sound.  Pushing the cloud itself around is a ridiculous way to use it as a conductor.
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Well, let's hack through some bullshit.  Here are some facts in the world of chemistry:

1. molecular bond "breaking" is an endothermic process. (energy is received)

2. molecular bond "making" is an exothermic process. (energy is given)

3. in general, the longer a chemical bond the weaker it is.
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    So lets breakem at point a and extract heat from the ambient and makem at point b and get this shit rolling.  The second law of thermal dynamics works if you expand the "system"
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Well, let's hack through some bullshit.  Here are some facts in the world of chemistry:

1. molecular bond "breaking" is an endothermic process. (energy is received)

2. molecular bond "making" is an exothermic process. (energy is given)

3. in general, the longer a chemical bond the weaker it is.

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Quote from: TheBuzz on January 22, 2009, 03:25:23 PM
Hey Grumpy, I doubt that you can prove that Meyer didn't use the light in his early devices any more than I can.. What I can prove is that the cell had more to it than people are willing to see. Here is a photo of the cell from Meyer's video. Notice the clip holding something in the center tube? What is that?

Could it be a piezo device? The bubbles don't get large and float to the top quickly so I doubt there is a huge amount of ultra sonic energy taking place.

Could it be something holding a gas discharge tube? It is well known that Meyer's patented generator had a high and low voltage side. Look at what the water spark plug people are doing in creating a cavitation to explode water. Could that light be used to trigger the high voltage side like the trigger on a xenon tube? Was is consuming electrons? A spark gap?

Questions that are worth looking into if one assumes that a gas discharge lamp is a cavitation device which I feel it is.

I know why he used the light and how it must be applied.  It is not required but would increase the yield.  This is not a light device unless water is pretreated by running it through this device - which may be the case - since the light is not at the location of the reaction between the cell tube walls.

If that object in the center of the tube is a vibrator of some sort, the effect wouldn't be much more than a shking of the entire cell, possibly to shake bubbles loose, but I have since identified a mechanism that indicates that vibration would also increase the gas yield.

Either seems likely and is probably further indicated by a change that shows up in a subsequent design. 

Spark gap is also a source of UV.

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Now I know exactly why he used piezo transducers. 
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Gentlemen

I'm confused [typically I'm always confused, this time more so]

The gas filled tube theory [seems Tesla loved tubes]

The Piezo transducer [I believed tuned to a specific frequency [one that beats the piss out of water]

The big  'doesn't heat up the cell'  thing

The simple neon circuit?

So many cool ideas !!

How can we test some of them??

    Chet
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