Hydrogen Generator Kits with High temp pet plastic jars and Heavy Duty CPVC Lids

[Hydro-Cell]

I remember reading about something like that a few years ago, any chance of a "Quick Start" guide ?. 

i dont want to go onto something different really as this isnt my thread, if you email me at hydro-cell@live.co.uk with the questions you need answering i will try and reply

[TheNOP]

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oh and why has it been scientifically proved to NOT work.

yes, it is a faq that hydrogen need more energy to produce then it give in return.

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now if you try what i tell you and answer the question honestly you will find that if you remove just the hho cell leaving the lambda spacer in place you will get even more mpg.

this is due to simple thermodynamics, whatever mpg saving you were making with the jar onboard will now increase even more due to the load of that jar being removed so the engine doesnt have to work as hard. the fuel saving you are making are due to the fact that you have pulled the lambda out of the path of the exhaust stream, by doing this the lambda will now tell the ecu it has less oxygen the ecu will compensate my cutting back on fuel to match the oxygen content.

so as you can see just simply by putting a lambda spacer on you can save money......

why tweak the ecu when running hho/petrol mixes ?
the hh gas volume you input is taking the volume of the air in cylinders.
not having the proper air/fuel ratio will leave us with no oxygen reaching the ecu sensor at all...

removing his jar will only leave him running lean, with all the problems running too lean would bring.

one thing tho..., why we do not have those "too lean mixture" problems when injecting hho ?

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hho enters the airflow and gets drawn into the cylinders this mixes with the petrol and air to produce a HIGHER OXTANE FUEL.....
now we all know what higher octane fuel does...
the hydrogen burns with the petrol seperatly at the same time, the hydrogen burns with oxygen to produce water

so all you have done is use loads of amps to produce this hho gas pump it into the engine and burn it seperatly. doing absolutly nothing.

i can also tell you why it doesnt do anything to the petrol. petrol has a perfect fuel to air ratio of 14.7:1 , hydrogen has a fuel to air ratio of 2:1 hence the name HHO

2 HYDROGEN 1 OXYGEN well if thats what your putting into the engine and thats what has to burn to get water out then where does it influence the more complete burn of fuel or speed up the burn?

octane is a rating relates to how much energy it takes to ignite a fuel, NOT directly to how much energy the gas puts out.

i don't agree with you, petrol and hydrogen/oxygen mixes does not simply burn separatly.
it is a more complex process then that.

it is proven that a mix of hydrogen and petrol will burn cleaner then petrol alone.
why ? if not from helping the combustion ?
getting more energy out by burning more completly ?

did anyone studied or tried to calculate the energy gain of hydrogen/oxygen + petrol mixes compaire to petrol ?
i can't find any papers on such study on the web.

that is the only part that keep me from saying those kit are working or not.
when connected to the alternator that is.

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im not sure that you can even ignite 0.4cc of hho in air even if it did it wouldnt make a bang ...............so how can it work

it works because the ecu thinks it doesnt need as much fuel.

hho can explode as long as there is at least 4% to 96% hydrogen/oxygen by volume.
but remember that we are talking of a fuels mixture here.


@all
always keep in mind that what apply to running fully on hho DOES NOT apply to fuel mixes.

for mixes, in today cars, you will never get oxygen at the sensor untill you stop putting petrol in.

in reallity, the car computer will not go lower then a preset ratio value and keep injecting petrol no matter how much hho you put in.
make sure you don't end up with un-burned petrol at the exaust ...


EDIT:
apparently not all car's computer have a lowest fuel ratio limit.
some cars model might have one, other don't have any.

[apolespejo]

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