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Are the Israelis serial killers and psychopaths?

Started by brian334, January 05, 2009, 03:56:16 PM

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utilitarian

Quote from: professor on January 07, 2009, 04:40:14 PM

To No.1
No one nor God forces you to worship him he has given us the freedom to do as we please...... I am surprised that you even had to asked such rudimentary question.
Neither will God interfere in mankind's decisions however he may cut our time short .
It all boils down are you willing to have a belief or not.

2
God has a Plan and he has Rules that he is not willing to Change just because you don't like them.
Tell me Do you have Kid's do you have Rules for them to follow do you punish them if they do not obey you?of course your hands are tyed it political incorrect to do so.Must you simply let them do whatever they feel doing, including Crime and murder? "Hell" you can call it Good or Evil Hell is just another expression.If there is good than there is evil if there is cold there is hot, Savy?

3
It becomes obvious that you have no conception of the Christian faith ,God sent us Jesus who died at our Hands yet God did not destroy those responsible as this was a planned action that god orchestrated  sacrificing his own son to make a point.
This really has nothing to do with the current issue on hand and is really silly but being addressed I felt obliged to respond.

When the Time is up perhaps 2012 even you will know the truth, but perhaps by then its a bit to late for you to repent.There is only so much God will tolerate especially brutal murder of innocent women and children who unlike yourself will be cared for in a better world.
By the way I am not a Church going Bible pusher, just a Christian with a belief ,that of my own free will.
However I dare you to compare Christianity with the Torah or Koran so please read the Talmud which singles out races unlike the Christian Bible and then we might talk again.
professor

Let me see if I have this straight.  We have a choice whether to worship Jesus, but the penalty for the wrong choice, and a penalty that is widely publicized, is eternal torture.  What kind of a choice is that?  It is like someone threatening you with a hot iron, saying, do this, or I will burn your flesh.  That is no choice at all.  If god truly wanted mankind to make their own choice, he would not threaten such punishment.  By the threat of Hell and its eternal and infinitely painful torture, God is affecting man's decision in a pretty severe manner.

Second, what kind of response is, "God has a Plan and has rules?"  My whole point is that God's plan is not that of a loving god, but a petty and vengeful God.  What kind of entity demands unconditional love and worship upon pain of eternal torture?  That is not the action of a loving god.  If that is God's plan, it is not a plan built on love and forgiveness.  I challenge you to explain how the existence of Hell is consistent with a loving God.  If you want to concede that God is not loving, but is in fact petty and cruel, well, then we have no further argument.

Third, let me see if this makes sense.  God sent his son to die at our hands, which was a planned action he orchestrated, but somehow this action absolves us of our sins but also makes us indebted to God, because he sacrificed his son, right?  How in the world does this make any sense at any level. 

First, how is someone else dying for your infractions absolve you of anything?  That's called scapegoating.  Billy gets punished because Jenny misbehaves.  Does this mean that Jenny is absolved?  No way.  That is an insult to any sense of justice and fair play.  I know, I know, it's God's plan, right?  Well it is a plan that is unjust and nonsensical.

Second, how fair is human sacrifice to begin with?  What kind of sadistic being would stage a torture and killing of a human being, his son/creating whatever, for the purpose of what, exactly?  Oh, because Eve got Adam to eat an apple?  WTF, how is that fair?


professor

Quote from: brian334 on January 07, 2009, 05:37:47 PM
Some how we got a bit off topic.
My issue is this. The psychopath Israeli’s are trying to start a war between America and Iran, because of that I think the psychopath Israeli’s should be kicked out of America.


Yes we are off the Subject Matter and I apologize for being the source but not the instigator of that.
It appears that there are some people that like us to change the subject by ways of provocation.
I had taken the bait,Line Hook and sinker. So please Utilitarian don't bother explaining away, something you will never want to understand. I have my belief and if it makes you happy, so be it, I don't expect you to have any at all.Please just drop it!
What is happening is Real and in real time not 300 years ago and the evidence can't be hidden ,neither can it be dismissed or explained away.
I am with you in full support on the Subject matter. Watch the Free speech TV Channel not CNN.
It is not about Religion or God but Greed ,Power and Domination all with the blessings or justification of and may I stand corrected by Hans and therefore Quote his interpretation
Quote:
"The Talmud is essentially a book containing oral tradition, including a set of instructions of how to live according to interpretations of the Torah by scholars".
professor

bugler

In order to understand the psicopathic nature of jews one needs to learn about the Talmud which is the ultimate hate book.

A book full of hate to non-jews so great that blows one's mind.

It has teaching such as:

"The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They are beasts."
Talmud: Baba mezia, 114b

"The Akum (non-Jew) is like a dog. Yes, the scripture teaches to honour the the dog more than the non-Jew."
Ereget Raschi Erod. 22 30

"Even though God created the non-Jew they are still animals in human form. It is not becoming for a Jew to be served by an animal. Therefore he will be served by animals in human form."
Midrasch Talpioth, p. 255, Warsaw 1855

"A pregnant non-Jew is no better than a pregnant animal."
Coschen hamischpat 405

"The souls of non-Jews come from impure sprits and are called pigs."
Jalkut Rubeni gadol 12b

"Although the non-Jew has the same body structure as the Jew, they compare with the Jew like a monkey to a human."
Schene luchoth haberith, p. 250 b

"If you eat with a Gentile, it is the same as eating with a dog."
Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b

"If a Jew has a non-Jewish servant or maid who dies, one should not express sympathy to the Jew. You should tell the Jew: "God will replace 'your loss', just as if one of his oxen or asses had died"."
Jore dea 377, 1

"Sexual intercourse between Gentiles is like intercourse between animals."
Talmud Sanhedrin 74b

"It is permitted to take the body and the life of a Gentile."
Sepher ikkarim III c 25

"It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians belong to the denying ones of the Torah."
Coschen hamischpat 425 Hagah 425. 5

"A heretic Gentile you may kill outright with your own hands."
Talmud, Abodah Zara, 4b

"Every Jew, who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jews), is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God."
Talmud: Bammidber raba c 21 & Jalkut 772

How does a Jew prepare for his crime?

Moed Kattan 17a . If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there.


Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God

Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed.



O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews

Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work.


Jews Have Superior Legal Status

Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be in full."


Jews May Steal from Non-Jews

Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b). Sanhedrin 76a. God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean..."


Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews

Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.

Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."

Jews May Lie to Non-Jews

Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile.


Non-Jewish Children are Sub-Human

Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.

Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.

Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.

Insults Against Blessed Mary

Sanhedrin 106a . Says Mary  was a whore: "She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters." Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b of the Soncino edition, it is stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men.



Horrible Blasphemy Against Jesus Christ

Gittin 57a. Says Jesus is being boiled in "hot excrement."

Sanhedrin 43a. Jesus deserved execution: "On the eve of the Passover, Yeshu (Jesus) was hanged...Do you suppose that he was one for whom a defense could be made? Was he not a Mesith (enticer)?"



Talmud Attacks Non jews beliefs

Rosh Hashanah 17a. Christians (minnim) and others who reject the Talmud will go to hell and be punished there for all generations.

Shabbath 116a. Jews must destroy the books of the Christians, i.e. the New Testament.

Dr. Israel Shahak of Hebrew University reports that the Israelis burned hundreds of New Testament Bibles in occupied Palestine on March 23, 1980 (cf. Jewish History, Jewish Religion, p. 21).

Sick and Insane Teachings of the Talmud

Yebamoth 63a. States that Adam had sexual intercourse with all the animals in the Garden of Eden.

Yebamoth 63a. Declares that agriculture is the lowest of occupations.

Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, three years "and a day" old).

Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old.

Kethuboth 11b. "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing."

Yebamoth 59b. A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also eligible to marry a Jewish priest.

Abodah Zarah 17a. States that there is not a whore in the world that the Talmudic sage Rabbi Eleazar has not had sex with.

Hagigah 27a. States that no rabbi can ever go to hell.

Baba Mezia 59b. A rabbi debates God and defeats Him. God admits the rabbi won the debate.

Pesahim 111a. It is forbidden for dogs, women or palm trees to pass between two men, nor may others walk between dogs, women or palm trees. Special dangers are involved if the women are menstruating or sitting at a crossroads.

Menahoth 43b-44a. A Jewish man is obligated to say the following prayer every day: Thank you God for not making me a gentile, a woman or a slave.

utilitarian

Quote from: professor on January 07, 2009, 11:32:48 PM
Yes we are off the Subject Matter and I apologize for being the source but not the instigator of that.
It appears that there are some people that like us to change the subject by ways of provocation.
I had taken the bait,Line Hook and sinker. So please Utilitarian don't bother explaining away, something you will never want to understand. I have my belief and if it makes you happy, so be it, I don't expect you to have any at all.Please just drop it!
What is happening is Real and in real time not 300 years ago and the evidence can't be hidden ,neither can it be dismissed or explained away.
I am with you in full support on the Subject matter. Watch the Free speech TV Channel not CNN.
It is not about Religion or God but Greed ,Power and Domination all with the blessings or justification of and may I stand corrected by Hans and therefore Quote his interpretation
Quote:
"The Talmud is essentially a book containing oral tradition, including a set of instructions of how to live according to interpretations of the Torah by scholars".
professor

I take it you are unable to resolve the existence of hell with a loving God, then?

carbonc_cc

to get back to the main question:
"So my question is do the power crazed Israelis murder because they are psychopaths or serial murders?"

We may need to take a look at history in order to understand how to answer it properly. 
~4000 years ago a man named Abraham was given a promise. 
All the world would be blessed through his offspring. 
The offspring is the KEY point to the whole deal going on today.

Torah:
The eldest son Ishmael (born out of wedlock to a servant girl) and the younger son Isaac (born from Abraham's wife)

qur'an:
The eldest son Ishmael (born from Abraham's wife)

God told Abram to whack his son as a sacrifice.
Torah: this is Isaac
qur'an: this is Ishmael

God would give some specified area of the middle east to the children of said son.
Torah: From the Nile to the river Euphrates.
qur'an: unspecified.


Jews and Christians believe the area between the Nile and the river Euphrates belong to the children of Issac (who's name was later changed to Israel)

muslims believe the land was given to the children of Ishmael.

American Native Indian believe that land doesn't belong to anybody.  They fought over the things on the land...resources.


So the dispute is one of Title and Ownership of land. 
or one that makes no since at all since there is very little resources on the land to fight over (if your an American Native Indian).

Why fight?
Jews to any non-jew within the specified area from Genesis: This is my land.  Any attack on my people is unjustified and an act of war.  Hence any act against my people is justified to protect our existence.

muslims to everybody else: Submit and pay a tax to be in our land or be killed.


Jews killing non-jews to protect their existence is no different than muslims killing non-muslims to protect their existence is no different than Christians killing non-Christians to protect their existence is no different than Native American Indians killing other tribes of Native American Indians to protect their existence is no different than hindu's killing non-hindu's to protect their existence is no different than Hitler killing non-white "perfect" people just because he's having a bad day is no different than Stalin killing millions of people because he was able to convince other millions that marxism is the way to go.

So to answer your question...

1.  Self preservation:  to me, is not considered Murder... The UN agrees.  So does my US Constitution .... Wonder what an unborn baby feels about this... 

2.  Your "because" clauses of "they are psychopaths or serial murders" are nullified due to my first part answer.