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Problems with TPU building and Free energy devices in general.

Started by ben8807, January 08, 2009, 10:58:48 PM

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nkovchak

adding more..we need rechargeable batteries  and switching  techniques plus some ideas of control....

jibbguy

I think that the answer to the question we keep seeing around here, as to what would happen if a solid, working design for F-E suddenly appeared on the Open Source forums is... That it would be a great day for the planet!

Yes there are constant nay-sayers who hang around here: Some are secret believers (..or else why would they hang around, lol?), and some are Paid Shills. There is no question that there is a whole new "profession" on the Internet of "Shill". They are essentially paid "Trolls"...  They work for contractors who then sell their services to unnamed concerns. I personally have been recruited by one such contractor... Lol i hope i never need money THAT BADLY so i told him to go to hell. There is no question that in the world of political blogs, newspaper and other news outlets online sites, and other places on the 'net, that you can find paid shills. So why not here too? Luckily their debate skills usually suck big-time... all they know how to do is use personal attack (...YES that is a challenge, lol.. PLEASE take it and prepare for an ass-whoopin ;).

Let's look at some of the existing threads here: When Gotoluc first announced the plasma arc spark for exploding water, no one at all knew where it would lead (..no one still does). So the idea that it could have been taken off before we all could see it is just wrong.. And maybe a little paranoid ;) . But like i tell peeps who sometimes accuse me of being that: "Even paranoids have enemies" lol.   

Let's look at the sequence of events that would happen if such a "solid" device was revealed here;

> First the thread with vids and photos, schematics would appear. We would all study it closely.

> Next, the naysayers would chime in claiming fraud if it is very obvious from the data shown that it works, or simple incompetence if it is still questionable.

> Those that have learned to ignore the nay-sayers would do so, and prepare to replicate, getting as much info on building as they could out of the inventor / thread owner.

> The first replicators would "just build it" lol. Some may succeed while other's don't, or maybe the level of success would differ greatly. Meanwhile the naysaying would actually increase in volume and nastiness.

> Interest would increase with added replications, causing a cascade effect with more doing so. Suddenly there are two dozen peeps in several different countries doing it. But note: There is still no concrete proof that it is "for real".

> Eventually, if there are several working prototype replication claims, then it will begin to get independently verified.. By local college profs, or other similar means. We will see the verifications. Now it is beginning to feel "for real", and excitement is building.

Guess what? It's now too late to stop it.

This is why the idea that something "too good" would be automatically kept from us is not holding water... Closing ALL the Open Source sites would be the only answer.

I don't want to turn this into a political statement; But i think we can all agree here that in the US we really need to fight for "Net Neutrality" to insure the large telecomm corporations don't get the means to close down sites like this... Because if given that power, they surely will. They didn't build the Internet; they have only used it to make Billions in profits. Yet they claim to have the right to take it over. Are we THAT stupid in America, lol (.. and what happens here effects the entire internet world-wide)? The votes on this will be coming up in the US Senate again later this year.... Last time they only deferred it with no result. 

nkovchak

Hi everybody!

This technology comes from:  the dynamic super-conductivity (DSC,  10 y.o research)!
Russian's call it the  KORTAGE (shorted toroidal electronic wire-vertex ) based on indefinite surface of moebius ring.

Note:
1. The superconductivity doesn’t let any magnetic field get in.
2. the Dynamic here means - the systems must be  pulsed continuously to keep this conductivity on.

This device able to create a super magnetic field with special micro and macro parameters, what  gives to us a new way to make "any energy from everywhere"...

-PS- as I know the Russian’s made field aprox. Н≈51Ñ...1019 а/m, при  t≈180 С, P≈760 mm.<- this is real shit! you can fly easily!

Nick

Bob Smith

FWIW, a quote from Bearden that might be a propos to the latter parts of this discussion:

Maxwell's equations (Heaviside version) do indeed allow open EM systems freely
receiving excess energy from their environment, and producing overunity.  Such
systems can (1) self-oscillate, (2) self-organize, and (3) power themselves
while simultaneously powering a load.

There is no problem at all in extracting all the EM energy you wish from the
vacuum.  Everything does that anyway!  Our normal circuits only capture and
use about 10exp(-13) of the actual energy flow extracted from the vacuum by
the source dipole.  Heaviside pointed out that most of the energy was just
wasted in nondivergent form.  Lorentz impatiently formulated a procedure that
just discards all that 10exp13 component, leaving only the 10exp(-13)
component.  That tiny little remaining "diverged" (collected) fraction is what
drives our circuits.  Lorentz also taught us the completely stupid (from a
power system viewpoint) procedure of symmetrically regauging Maxwell-Heaviside
equations before we use them.  In other words, he taught us to discard far
more systems -- all those that asymmetrically self-regauge so as to retain a
net force and be able to use that excess free energy in a load -- than he
retained.  Since then, all our engineers have dutifully -- like good little
parrots -- applied those equations AFTER the Lorentz procedure has been
invoked.

Free energy experimenters always expected a conspiracy somewhere.  It actually
was an innocent conspiracy originally.  The old guys did it to ease the
solution of the equations mathematically.  It appears that one or two later
realized what I speak of in this writeup.  However, their controllers (the
financial end) in secret has had this kind of thing suppressed for decades.
Now you know the exact nature of the real conspiracy.  It is innocent on the
part of the scientists for 99.9999% of the cases.  It is not innocent at all
on the part of a very few powerful industrialists who know this and pass it
along.

Both the Russians (Moscow University) and the U.S. (Gabriel Kron for a
contractor in a Navy contract at Stanford University) made free energy devices
in the 1930s.  The Russian work is fully documented in the hard Russian
physics literature and the French physics literature.  The KGB/Communists
suppressed the Russian work at the beginning of WW II.  I do not know what
happened in France to cause its abandonment.  In the U.S., Kron's work was
never openly released on what he called his "negative resistor" which, when
connected to the Network Analyzer at Stanford, allowed the NA to be
disconnected from the generator because the negative resistor would power it.

See:  http://users.navi.net/~rsc/physics/beard24.txt

nkovchak

http://users.navi.net/~rsc/physics/beard24.txt..<-----looks pretty good!!!!



...it well known  " ...the light speed.. doesnt limit our ideas :)...the principle of mind is the greate ultimate."....
Thanks Mr. Smith for the link!!!  how is Canada doing? (UofA, UBC,..etc)?

Gyus, there is the answer from Tom Bearden <--sound good to me!:
1.......infolded topology within the outfolded topologies" -- is the secret to developing a unified field theory
       is the secret to developing a unified field theory that is engineerable upon the laboratory bench
2, .....Anyhow, hopefully that gives you some insight into the business of
multiarrayed semiconductors performing overunity.

Cheers,
Nick, RF engineering/Canada/USSR