Expansion rate of hho ?

[ramset]

Thanks EXX
Speaking of burning water and a lot more

http://www.browngas.com/eng_bestkorea/history_1.htm

An HHO heater the inventor infers he has running overunity

HHO burning in a torch quite cool 400, 600F

Put that same flame on a piece of MANGANESE OR TITANIUM  3200F

This guy did the obvious , plus got the cell pumping  MUCHO gas

Checkout his patents

Im trying to get my brain around this Korean fellows Heating device

For sale in Korea [South]


This patent will be of interest

US 6,761,558 Heating apparatus using thermal reaction of brown gas

US 6,397,834 Brown gas heating furnace made of mineral stone
Chet

[TheNOP]

there are only 2 ways to stop a cumbustion.

-prevent comburant(oxygen) to reach the flame.

-decrease the temperature below the ignition point of what is burning

[exxcomm0n]

Hey Chet,

I've often wondered what causes the wide disparity between the flame reaction temperature depending on what the substance is.

I've come to the conclusion (through occidental proof, no personal in depth experimentation) that it is the moisture content of the material that governs the reaction temp.

Since metals and glass can have very little humidity content vs. skin or a piece fruit and they react with much more temp creation and react (burn) hotter.

Why the humidity might have this effect may be the same as why Indian fakirs can walk over hot coals without getting burnt.
By vaporizing water a thin layer barrier is created that retards the chemical or pyrotechnic reaction that can cause much higher temps.

Then there's the fact that combustion is in fact creating water on it's outer edge that is already vaporized and sort of creating the barrier.

This is not proven and does not come from any other source than my head, so I'm sure it's incorrect.

As to how the water heater functions, I'm looking into the patents you posted, but I don't have a clear picture of it yet due to bad translation to english.



P.S. If it were warmer out I'd crank up the torch and try the theory on a full soda can or an apple.

[ramset]

EXX
Something to do with TRANSMUTATION of elements

lots of info here http://www.brownsgas.com/nuclearwaste.html   

Chet

PS original patent info from user Stefan his first post here

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/3597-hho-heater.html

[ramset]

EXX

Ever since I learned that Yule Brown treated  contaminated radiation with his HHO

,and the odd anomaly of a cold HHO flame in atmosphere making  3200F.up against Titanium

It seems to me we should at the very least be using the gas the way the Koreans are

Take that 300 F flame and turn it into a 3200F furnace [10 times more out then in ,at what cost?]

Get your self a pound of water, a Titanium bolt[melting point 3000F]

Hang the bolt in the water [you might even be able to run the torch under the water up against the submerged bolt]

Measure the time it takes to raise the pound of water one degree[in one minute] [definition of a BTU ]

And we can calculate the efficiency

  Chet