Aiming @ the VIC coil

[CrazyEwok]

I will be selling 1/5 pounds on ebay for 100$ +

1/5 pounds will have 3500+ feet and will be enough for 3 coils

I will be about 20 times cheaper than any competition on the planet

http://www.a-msystems.com/electronics/wire/stainlesssteelsingletef.aspx

LOL!!! New sales spew, same wire... new packaging... Just a thought... if you have this VIC covered as well as you say you do why not make 3 sell them for a tidy profit as no one else has it as you say. and make your money back that way. As it seems to me you ain't got nothing but a new sales pitch and some drummed up facts based on a video that only you have with regurgitated pictures of a conversation with someone with the same handle as someone who is well respected in the online communittee... not actually stating in his posts what you are talking about... Seems very suspect since you say you have the holy grail in knowledge and you have an abundance of the correct grade base materials... small input on your part in making your "missing link that no-one has perfected yet" would make your money back 10 fold... easy... Or we could see it as it is... someone has an excess of wire that they have come into found a "market" with people who are looking for this sort of material and then trying to flog it off... your horse is dead here stop flogging your wire... CREATE A BLOG... SS wire for sale. and stop posing as anything but a traveling salesman...

[Shanti]

But a bifilar coil, used as a flyback transformer, cannot put out much voltage because of the insulation between wires therefore it is better to build the flyback as 2 separate coils on the same core.

This is exactly the reason, why I have suggested that maybe they are connected so that both bifilars have the same polarity.
I completely agree, that your idea of the working does make sense. But a lot of ideas do make sense IMHO.

When it goes about Stan, I believe him, that he really wound the VIC, as stated in the first Pic in this thread. And also that this VIC put out a voltage of up to about 40kV. Also the wiring in seperate pieces on the coil does make sense, as this is a common way to wind HV-Flybacks, for obvious reasons, and would surely have made sense, when the output potential was 40kV . And although Stan declared, that he used a special enamelling for his wires: Even good enamelled wires are not able to withstand a lot of voltage. So if he wound the VIC as he described, it is IMHO impossible to have wound them bifilar if they were made so, that they did output different polarities. So from this point it would really only make sense, if they were wound so that both bifilars did have the same polarity. So IMHO if he really wound the VIC as shown in the first Pic, then the bifilars must have had the same polarity.
But at the same time it is shown, that the secondary does have even more turns than the bifilars, so it should actually develop already quite a high voltage. And this voltage would be seen by the bifilars even if they have the same polarity. This is quite confusing...
Well I just could imagine one possible setup which would work. And that is that the secondary has exactly double the voltage of each of the bifilars. Then they could be connected with different polarities and still not have to withstand a lot of voltage. But actually like that the secondary would always cancel the voltage of the bifilars, so that the WFC would never see anything...

Also the diode is missing in this pic. This could just have been neglected, or he really didn't use a diode anymore. One could guess, that if one does saturate the core in one direction, then a diode is not needed anymore, as the core saturation will act like a diode on the inductors on the core, where the inductance for a current flow in one direction is much higher than in the other direction (just like in Tesla's patent, where he used this principle to rectify AC).

When one does look at the history of his VIC development (e.g. see here http://waterfuelcell.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=751) it is interesting that as soon as he introduced a resistor to the negative electrode of the WFC, he got a dramatic increase in the production. He called it the "Electron Inhibitor".  This is IMHO the same effect as the people here trying to "coat" their cells. By this coating they introduce a resistance.
What effect would this resistor have. Surely some voltage would drop across the resistor during the Step-Up. So the WFC would be on an overall positive potential with both electrodes, but there would still remain a voltage difference across the electrodes! So by adjusting the resistor, one could select how much voltage difference should be across the WFC, and how big should the positive offset be, of both plates. Actually with the bifilars with the same polarity the same would be the case, except that no energy would be wasted in the resistor.
Now during the flyback, the electron flow would be diminished on the negative side, as the resistor would block the current, whereas on the positive side, the full current could flow (remember during the flyback the positive side would be negativ and the negative positive). And by this current flow I don't mean conventional closed circuit current flow, but the current flow due to different electrostatic potentials. E.g. the same as when you touch a doorknob and get a buzz, when you walked over a carpet before. This "buzz-circuit" also didn't need a closed circuit, as it only equalized the different electrostatic potentials.   
So like that you have a tremendous inrush of electrons (short but high amp flow) into the WFC, but none of this current flowing through the WFC, e.g. no resistive losses. As I stated before, this is very very similar to Dr Stifflers circuit for water splitting.

"Unfortunately", the resistor would also make sense, with the bifilars in opposite polarity. Then the resistor would act merely as a current blocker, so that the inductive kickback voltage could develop and is not immediately eaten up by the current flowing. But then, a lot of the voltage would be seen by the resistor...
Well, I just love unconventional theories...

[dankie]

LOL!!! New sales spew, same wire... new packaging... Just a thought... if you have this VIC covered as well as you say you do why not make 3 sell them for a tidy profit as no one else has it as you say. and make your money back that way. As it seems to me you ain't got nothing but a new sales pitch and some drummed up facts based on a video that only you have with regurgitated pictures of a conversation with someone with the same handle as someone who is well respected in the online communittee... not actually stating in his posts what you are talking about... Seems very suspect since you say you have the holy grail in knowledge and you have an abundance of the correct grade base materials... small input on your part in making your "missing link that no-one has perfected yet" would make your money back 10 fold... easy... Or we could see it as it is... someone has an excess of wire that they have come into found a "market" with people who are looking for this sort of material and then trying to flog it off... your horse is dead here stop flogging your wire... CREATE A BLOG... SS wire for sale. and stop posing as anything but a traveling salesman...

At least I'm doing something while you just complain and cry and wtch Alex Jones ... At least I got something to sale and its not crack ... Im just working on my stuff , once in a while I do get a small order and it helps .

I finally sold some here lol , 80% of getting my money back . You would be surprised @ how poor the people are these days , just getting your money back is hard enough lol ...

My horse if far from dead , its starting to run faster and faster . Its you people's horses that are dead  .  You have no tools  , no will , no knowledge , no hope , no ideas vvtf your talkign about ... You already said you preferred doing nothing rather than working on the VIC ... Of course you think buying wire and making a VIC is stupid ...

[Room3327]

       Having the same voltage on both sides of the WFC accomplishes nothing.  When I said he has the connections wrong in the patent I meant that if the circuit is connected as shown in the patent, the magnetic fields produced by the action would be in opposition to each other and cancel each other out and you would get no flyback action with the VIC.  When people apply for a patent they almost always do two things, they try to cover as many bases as they can to make the patent broadly applicable to as many things as they can think of, and they try to show something in  the patent to make it a little cryptic so any bean brain out there can't copy their patent right off the paper.  And sometimes they just plain make a mistake with the drawings.  What good would it do to have two magnetic fields canceling each other, when what your after requires them.  Please don't try to make this stuff way more esoteric then it is.

Dankie,

        Don't give up! Try some of what we have been talking about and wind a transformer out of magnetic wire and see what you get, Thats the only way to prove to yourself what is going on.

[dankie]

Room thx for the kind words , good observation Room 

I believe tho Stanley Meyers is trying to tell us something .. to  teach us something ...

Yes I agree with you room ,  here is my hypothesis on this issue . Somehow  I believe Both the polarization by HV  and "particle oscillation" occur sequentially in an instant of time ... Forget about that stuff that the VIC fits into the injector , I was wrong on that one ...

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/3240-real-injector-vic-coil-6-1-a-2.html

Watch this video ...

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=wZdtgb1VJ58


This is from a Tom bearden , it can be found @ the orion project site


From: Precursor Engineering and the Falsification of Modern Physics by: Thomas Eugene Bearden

With this more advanced understanding of what an "observable" actually is, then when we now introduce a bit of "sharp little gradient tickling" the vacuum in a local area, per P.A.M. Dirac, that tickling will produce negative energies in that tickled
vacuum as well. And that means that we are adding in "negative probabilities" into that bubbling structure (say, a container of water, in each water molecule structure) so that the entire bubble structure for the water molecule starts "backing back down" its ongoing creation chain -- in short, it starts "unhappening" at its "highest positive energy end". If we just use a gross pattern of tickling, we get "overall" unhappening, so the last and highest positive energy thing that made the water molecule possible -- i.e., the OH bond positive probability -- now has much-reduced overall probability. The net probability is the summation of (1) the usual positive probability and (2) the added negative probability due to tickling. Hence statistically the water molecules in the tickled area start "falling apart" as their
OH bonds now have much less probability, and so they just start "unhappening" statistically as their OH bonds start vanishing statistically. So intermixed bubbles of H2 and O2 gas (from those molecules whose OH bond "unhappened") begin appearing throughout the vacuum-tickled "water". But these mixtures are not very combustible or explosive because in that altered (tickled) region
now it is very difficult to form the OH bond. Aha! But if we then pipe the resulting gas bubbles out of that local tickled-vacuum
region -- i.e., out of the water container itself-- and a few inches away and into the combustion chamber of a nearby combustion engine, then the vacuum in that combustion chamber is "normal" and not being "tickled". Hence the OH bond is back in its full normal probability, and so the mix of O2 and H2 will burn and power the engine, giving no exhaust except water vapor.

From:  The Birth of New Technology

Opposite polarity Voltage Wave burst as to Dynamic Voltage Stimulation is simply produced when Programmable Variable Pulse-Width Pulse-Train Waveform is allowed to be electrically transmitted through and beyond  Resonant Charging Chokes Stages  that are not only electrically connected in sequential order but likewise magnetically linked by Inductance Coupling field. The resultant ever increasing pulsating opposite electrical voltage fields having superimposed thereon counter opposing Rippling Voltage-Surfaces  [Dynamic Electrica1 Charging Effect], now, set ups, causes, and applies ever increasing (rubberbanding effect) Pulsating Opposite Electrical Stress across Water Gap encouraging "Particle Oscillation"  as a "Energy Generator" by way of pulsating “Electrical Stress" as the combustible gas atom particles of the water molecule undergo "Particle Deflection" farthest from the point of "State of Equilibrium" and returning back to "Stable State of Equilibrium" during-pulse off-time for repeated "Snapping Action" (Rubberbanding effect) in accordance with bi-polar Voltage Rippling Effect. The greater the Electrical Stress applied, the greater amount of thermal explosive energy is released from Resonant Water Gap. Increasing energy-yield still further is accomplished by increasing the number of Resonant Charging Choke Stages in "Sequential Order" since the total number of Multi-Coil Magnet bifilar coils serially electrically connected together are sequentially electrically linked to an equal number of serially electrically aligned Stainless Steel Resonant Coils allowing each/both bifilar coil assembly to be electrically and magnetically energized in the same progressive direction toward Water Gap and away from blocking diode keeping amp-surge to a minimal level while enhancing Voltage Potential of Electrical Stress as additional Dual Choke Coils are included in the stacked coil-array forming Voltage Intensifier Circuit, once again.in.