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Panacea-BOCAF 2nd MRA replication -COP =8

Started by ashtweth_nihilisti, January 27, 2009, 08:16:43 PM

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poynt99

question everything, double check the facts, THEN decide your path...

Simple Cheap Low Power Oscillators V2.0
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=248
Towards Realizing the TPU V1.4: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=217
Capacitor Energy Transfer Experiments V1.0: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=209

ashtweth_nihilisti

Hi poynt99 and Stefan.

Thanks Stefan, ill add into the PDF for all.

@poynt99 this could be right, i do know that our windings were different to Norms (Trafo) so this this is why we get different output puts. Now your driver circuit will be put to good use, Norm is now kindly sending us the original MRA magnet which was used in the patent application and i am told can reach 40 watts ,(256-1 OU). So lets use your driver circuit loop it back. Or with a 40 watt out, we should be able to at least get a DC audio amplifier input reading.

Ash
?If you create your own electricity, heating and water systems, you create your own politics. Maybe that?s what they?re afraid of.? ?? Michael Reynolds
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org
http://www.panaceauniversity.org

http://www.geocities.com/glorybangla/cqtes.htm

poynt99

Ash,

Here's the "Simple Cheap Low Power Oscillators v1.0.pdf" design so far. Let me know if there is anything that you would like changed to better suit your needs.

.99

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item221
question everything, double check the facts, THEN decide your path...

Simple Cheap Low Power Oscillators V2.0
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=248
Towards Realizing the TPU V1.4: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=217
Capacitor Energy Transfer Experiments V1.0: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=209

ashtweth_nihilisti

poynt99 outstanding man. We are not going to waste any time with this, will get onto it right away, we will keep the original MRA from the video for your driver circuit until we get it right, we are in in this for the long haul to deliver an open source device to all before this financial crash deviates most.

Will send over your Q's and circuit to Norm/Joel and the EVGRAY forums, thanks also to Stefan will get second opinions on it, this is what the OU forum should be , and is at its best.
I am glad to see this caliber of R and D here. Thank you gentlemen, We will try and prepare sources for the piezo for all to replicate with the results of the new magnet (40 watt out put estimated).

poynt99, this looks like a great start, well done and thanks so much man. Results will be posted. Thanks again poynt99, great document, will up date the course for all.

Ash
?If you create your own electricity, heating and water systems, you create your own politics. Maybe that?s what they?re afraid of.? ?? Michael Reynolds
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org
http://www.panaceauniversity.org

http://www.geocities.com/glorybangla/cqtes.htm

ashtweth_nihilisti

Guys just got this in from Norm

"Hi!  Ash:    Your "Soccer Ball"  MRA core is in the mail so you should have it in about 10 days.
The piezo elements that you are using have a natural freq of 32khz, and a power handling capability
of 150 watts with up to 90V input.   We had no problem of driving the piezo with a power amp
that  has a 70V output. (paging amp) When trying to drive this piezo in a series resonant circuit at
high power you will know when you have a miss match of L and C for the piezo will go into a high
pitch squeal that will pierce your ears.  Just like Hectors squealing pig description.  You have to back
off your power and condition the circuit (warm up) for about 30 minutes to an hour before going to
high power.  Remember the MRA will not perform if the elements in the circuit are cold.  The MRA
is realy weird for it seems to self tune if allowed to settle in and achieve ambient room temperature
of around 70 degrees.  Please observe the fact that a finely tuned MRA circuit when operating under
high power will build a "standing wave" or as Joel describes it as a "columar wave" that if caused to
suddenly colaspe will manifest a hugh pulse out of the ground side of the electrical circuit.  This pulse
has many times destroyed light bulbs that were not even turned on at the time.  The colaspe of this wave
can occur if you unload the secondary side of the circuit while under high power input.  There is a hugh
amount of reflected energy that has no place to go except back into the primary and causes the piezo
element to react with this spike energy.  Under the right conditions Joel and I have measured over
1000V oscillation between the piezo and the primary magnet winding while being driven with about
80VAC at the driving freq,  23.75khz as in the case of  the "Soccer Ball" .  Remember that the spike
will be from the ground side of the circuit into the neutral buss that you have your test equipment and
driving amp and signal generator plugged into.  Joel and I have destroyed lots of good equipment and
amps because of this phenomenon, so be careful.  Please refer to my article titled "Neutral Spike" to
get and understanding as to the power of this "negative electricity" that causes hugh current over very
small conductors and is described as "cold current" or radiant energy.
Thanks,    Norm"
?If you create your own electricity, heating and water systems, you create your own politics. Maybe that?s what they?re afraid of.? ?? Michael Reynolds
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org
http://www.panaceauniversity.org

http://www.geocities.com/glorybangla/cqtes.htm