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Hydrogen generation a new approach

Started by billmehess, January 26, 2009, 06:17:38 PM

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Hi Group
Been a while since I posted but I would like to run some thoughts out here for some feedback. I have been working for some time now on this principal of using a clock motor to generate electricity.
I have changed my direction and have developed the device to be able to charge up a bank of capacitors which in turn is pulsed into water (using baking soda as a electrolite) to produce hydrogen. It's taken a long time to be able to do this but I have been successful.  The device at this moment is still inefficient as it will produce only 90 seconds of H for every 60 minutes of operation. BUT this could be greatly increased with running a series of this devices. In other words If I can produce 90 seconds every 60 minutes then two devices
discharging would produce 2 90 seconds pulses of H every 60 minutes and so forth.
The upside is that the device run 24-7, does not need solar, wind, or any fuel to operate. The clock motor must be rewond every 8 days by hand which takes 12 seconds to do so.
I taked to Sterling at FreeEnergy about the device and he had Joel Garbon who lives here in the Portland Or. area come on out for an evaluation.
What a privilage it was to take with him! He felt that the device was too inefficient in such that the amount of H produce was not really enough to be practical and that the amount of H was directly porportional to the energy required to rewind the main spring. Of course is is correct but I still wonder that since it does work if there is any value in continuing with this work?
Hydrogen seems to be coming more of a dead end but I certainly could be incorrect in that assumption.
I dismanteled the device but if there is interest I can easily put it back together and would be happy to post videos and all specs.
The H produced was a steady stream.
Again the goal would be to upgrade the system with additional units running in tandum (each unit has a footprint of only 2 sq. feet)
the unit running faster and upgrading the mainspring to allow for greater energy production to cause a greater volume of electrolysis.
I'll though this out and see what the interst and comments are.
As always thank you all for your time
Bill

Farlander

Yes and we could hire a bunch of vikings to row our ships for us...

Great that you're thinking alternatively, trying new ideas, and meeting new people.  So far, those three things have been the most rewarding aspects of my WFC research.

However, I think your process is a roundabout method of attaining energy from solar power.  Sun hits the earth, grows the plants, animals eat the plants, man eats the animals.  Man turns the clock and makes hydrogen fuel.  Why not let the sun power make the hydrogen direct?  Hook up a 12V solar panel (12" square, radioshack) to a servo motor that winds the clock, and voila, you bypass the whole food chain.

Paul-R

Quote from: billmehess on January 26, 2009, 06:17:38 PM
Hi Group
Been a while since I posted but I would like to run some thoughts out here for some feedback. I have been working for some time now on this principal of using a clock motor to generate electricity.
I have changed my direction and have developed the device to be able to charge up a bank of capacitors which in turn is pulsed into water using baking soda as a electrolite...
Why?

The Bob Boyce group regard it as unsatisfactory - likely to generate carbon monoxide as a
bi-product. They suggest KOH or NaOH.