Newsflash: Overunity is impossible

[jadaro2600]

Sadly, this little thread will receive more replies than most GOOD ideas.

If matter can neither be created nor destroyed, then how did we come to be?

It's as if saying that there is a finite amount of energy in the universe - it's only going to be finite so long as you can measure it laughably so, it stand to reason that some one finite piece of matter measuring all the pieces of matter is concluding that it will eventually stop measuring pieces of matter.

the number 1 will eventually catch up to the number 2 - and then, of all things weird and unusual, it will catch back up with the number, or lack thereof, 0. If this is the case, then we can just as easily assume that 1 = 0 over time.

[vonwolf]

We are living in a Universe where energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transferred. It is IMPOSSIBLE to get more energy out than in. .

Here's a small quote from Wikipedia -
         "The First Law, i.e. the law of conservation, has become the most secure of all basic laws of science. At present, it is unquestioned."

   I think the most important part in this quote is "At present, it is unquestioned."
To think humanity has answered all the question of our existence is some what narrow minded. Yes At present, it is unquestioned tomorrow who knows? How can anyone condemn the never ending search for answers?
   Pete

[z.monkey]

If matter can neither be created nor destroyed, then how did we come to be?

Whoo Hoo! Thine eyes are open!  Thou can see the spirit...

Creation is open source, its end is not near, there is no end...

You can see the alpha (zero) and the omega (infinity), and there are no limits...

Bravo! Jadaro2600...

One is not zero, One is infinity...

[jadaro2600]

One is not zero, One is infinity...

My eyes are open, floaters and all, ...and after studying the calculus with limits approaching infinity, I'm thoroughly confused.

There would be no infinity if it were all limited.

[z.monkey]

Here's a small quote from Wikipedia -
         "The First Law, i.e. the law of conservation, has become the most secure of all basic laws of science. At present, it is unquestioned."

Conservation is flawed within a infinite universe, you are right, we have not explored all the possibilities...