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Newsflash: Overunity is impossible

Started by newsflash, January 30, 2009, 08:17:48 PM

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The Observer

Jadaro,

    The most simple tuning fork experiment it to see if 2 ringing (one forcing the other) is louder than just 1.

I say  YES !

Steve.

    I think you can see what I am saying.

Your Leftover Energy is my Stored Energy.

The point is... that by the nth push, more energy is being dissipated than on the 1st push.

                                   It is interesting that a mouse could theoretically lift 100 lbs 10 feet using a pendulum.

Have a Good One,

                                 The Observer

jadaro2600

Quote from: The Observer on February 03, 2009, 11:35:24 PM
Jadaro,

    The most simple tuning fork experiment it to see if 2 ringing (one forcing the other) is louder than just 1.

I say  YES !

Steve.

    I think you can see what I am saying.

Your Leftover Energy is my Stored Energy.

The point is... that by the nth push, more energy is being dissipated than on the 1st push.

                                   It is interesting that a mouse could theoretically lift 100 lbs 10 feet using a pendulum.

Have a Good One,

                                 The Observer

A mouse moving 100lbs over 10 feet is work done over time...so how far did the mouse move? etc.

The idea behind the sing and the momentum laws is that if you extract energy from the swing, then as much work that is done to keep the swing moving is as much work that is taken out of the momentum of the system.  When there is a large amount of mass going back and forth, the amount of energy that is needed to keep it moving may be less than what is used.  IT may only appear to be doing more work than is going in ..one has to take into account the energy expended putting the swing into motion.

It is indeed true that it takes less energy to keep something going rather than initially start it.  There is logic to you idea, Observer, but there is also a large handful of counter forces at work.

Chris31

Quote from: The Observer on February 03, 2009, 08:08:35 PMTell me Please... Please.... Please....
                                                                  How can a small push produce a loud creak and a lot of wind disturbance?

I have silenced quite a few in these last few days with this thread.

Please reply... there is nothing wrong with saying..."Oh, I can see what you are talking about !"

LOL maybe I should just agree with you? ;D

If we put the whole swing (and the girl) in a vaccum, assuming there is no loses. In theory the swing should forever run. Like I said earlier, the swing higher amplitude is due to the build up from a small energy applied with correct timing, in this case the little girl is building up each time she push. She did not instantly create that big energy to overcome all the loses. The previous poster made a better explanations  8)

This is why once you load a resonating system, it quickly loses its amplitude, that is because in our case the little girl is not able to restore the swing back to its highest amplitude. She is only able to restore that again (gradually) once the load is removed.

Althought its not resonance, a man can push a car on a flat road. The man start off very slow, after a while he is able to push the car at a speed. Over comming all the drags, now that car travelling at let say 15mphs weighing a ton and contains alot of energy. The amount of energy there should be less the amount of energy the man has put in at the first place.

There is a few thread here about resonance, joule theif, etc etc. The thing is althought theres alot of voltage there but the current is reduced.

I know its a bitch, but it is almost always like this, it either a big current - small voltage or big voltage - small current.
I hope there is something out there that will truly amplify what we put it.

I know I dont explain very well but I think you get the idea  ;D

Chris31

Quote from: The Observer on February 03, 2009, 11:35:24 PM
                                   It is interesting that a mouse could theoretically lift 100 lbs 10 feet using a pendulum.

LOL I know its sounds good, but it is the same way as a man can lift 1 tons of weight. Use a hydraulic jack  ;D

This time the man did not lift the 1 ton in one go, he lifted it gradually. Pumping the hydraulic, moving his arm many times just to move the weight by an inch.

wizkycho

Quote from: blueroomelectronics on January 30, 2009, 09:03:46 PM
Well at least paragraph one is accurate.

wrong both of ya !

Free energy (that we want and is possible) works this way. source flowing to destination then destination becomes source and source becomes destination. again source flowing to destination that flow is free (from which we extract energy) and absolutely nothing is destroyed or changed in a given space of free energy setup.

Just like todays electrons are not lost or damaged or vanished or "frozen" when they go to famous GND.

wiz