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HydroMeyers Vic

Started by Spewing, January 31, 2009, 03:02:14 AM

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ramset

Farrah Day
Now that was a very good post

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Chet

More later
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Thanks Grandma

ramset

More from the Buzz
After a bit more research into Meyer I think I have sorted the wheat from the chaff.

The videos on the web have been spliced and the magical thinking minds of the people researching this have been tricked into thinking that Stan split water in a tube cell with milliwatts power. There is no evidence of that and the gas from his original cell would only idle a VW at best. There is also a huge ozone generator on the back of the buggy at that time that everyone ignores. The milliwatt power was going to the ozone generator in the air/gas processor.

Some people think that Stan claimed he could run a car on water generating hydrogen from a tube cell and he could have, but the particle generator was not allowed into the public domain. I.e., the national security patent review system suppressed the invention. It worked the way many free energy devices worked through H2 to H1 transmute using a UV laser. That is another story. Bottom line, Stan never ran his car that way either.

So this is the history of Stan's water car and the solution to the mystery of  coil photo.

Patents can be downloaded here: http://pat2pdf.org

September 1986 US patent 4613304  
In the device there are several accelerator coils for "pumping gas" and a few other things like a gas recycle system.

Notice on Stan's tube cell none of that exists? In fact, there is not a single instance I am aware of where the tube cell was powering the car on its own. The rotary pulse generator was always run from an extension cord. You could probably have enough power out of a 1 horse motor to idle that small engine once the compression was nullified by the engine running. I.e, the electric motor was running the car from house current.

May 1989 US 4826581
By this point Meyer has discovered the photolytic process. The patent clearly reveals the high frequency laser.

June 1990 US 4936961.
If you read the first paragraph - Objects of the invention - it states Fig. 3A through 3F are illustrations depicting the theoretical bases for phenomena during operation of the invention herein."

Electrolysis was hardly a phenomena neither was a pulsed DC source or a water capacitor. This patent appears to be nothing more than a way to re-patent electrolysis. Meyer had discovered the photolytic process already.

Sept 1992 US 5149407
Meyer now patents the photolytic process. The laser and the resonant cavities needed to produce the oxides are revealed.

By ionizing ambient air into a radical form of ozone O4, he was able to get that ozone to steal the covalent electrons that bond the H and O together when fired through the injector at 120 PSI, further compressed in the taper cavity and then suddenly expanded causing the water ozone mix to flash into steam. When hit with a high voltage arc from a vertox racing magneto and possibly laser light, it all flashed into hydroxy and exploded.

March 1994 US 5293857
In this patent Stan brings it all together with the management system, the air gas processor is fully disclosed, the laser, the injectors, everything. At this point in the evolution there are apparently no tube cells in the system.

Now look at the front cover of the box:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6702.msg155635#msg155635

Notice the patent number 5297857? That is the last patent Stan filed on the water car and there were no tube cells at that point.

That coil is the HV coil (VIC) that powers the electrodes in the ozone generator in the air gas processor. That coil is bank wound and that is how we wind a high voltage coil to prevent the layers from shorting. The rule is something like ten winds per layer and each layer has to be insulated.

This is the last patent Meyer filed on the water car and it was fully evolved for commercial production at that point. There were no tube cells in the process at that point and the front cover of that box proves what it is.

I was probably wrong on the connector. The connector on the box looks like a 15 pin computer joystick connector but I had another look and that cannot be determined. One thing that can be though, there are only four taps shown on that coil and that is what you would see for a standard HV coil along with the bank windings.

The VIC transformer that Dankie put up is a high voltage transformer for the air/gas processor to produce ozone and does not appear to have anything too special about it. High voltage transformers are bank wound like that to prevent arcing between the layers.

Stan never ran a car on water without external power without the ozone process. Stan never ran a car on just tubes cells without external power and their is no evidence of that. In fact, Stan never ran a car on water until he used the photolytic ionized air process. There is no evidence that Meyer ever did it any other way.

Hopefully that should solve the mystery of Dankie's coil photos and prove that nobody has replicated Meyer.

By ionizing air in an ozone generator or plasma tube and placing the tube cell under a vacuum and removing the gas through an aspirator pump you replicate many of the aspects of the invention. That is what my vacuum plasma electrolysis project taught anyone living in reality.

Used neon sign transformer from a sign shop - 50 bucks.
SS mesh and a jar - 10 bucks.
100 watt mercury vapor lamp with outer globe crushed in a vice - 12 bucks
A ballast to run the mercury vapor lamp - 100 bucks.
A fish tank pump - 20 bucks

I have done it two different ways. .
More to come

Chet
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

ramset

Something quite amazing, posted by user zerotensor here

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6996.0;topicseen

Chet
more to come
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

Outlawstc

AhuraMazda,
you must be mistaken me for someone else.. i have posted very usefull information some pages back.. here is some more..  ramsat just soundsl like a broken record to me.


outlawstc
its not the fuzz you gotta worry about in these neck of the woods, its thebuzz

Outlawstc

here is another intellect idea


outlawstc
its not the fuzz you gotta worry about in these neck of the woods, its thebuzz