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escaping sticky spot in a magnet motor - review

Started by FreeEnergy, May 22, 2010, 03:10:07 PM

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XS-NRG

hello gyulasun

No patents.
What i mean is best explained by using stepper motors.
They have designed sticky spots and are quite powerfull.
The sticky spots give the motor a lot of resistance when it is turned, so we will remove them.

You need two do do this.
Take them apart and put the two rotors on one axis like shown below.
Now you adjust the "magnetic timing" for i have no other name, in a way that when the first rotor is at the sticky spot, the second is in the pull or push area.

The result will be a very smooth rotation and a double output when used as a dynamo.
Now it is easy to rotate the dual rotor motor because one rotor pulles the other over the sticky spot on the same axis.

Here are some pic's to go with the idea.

FatChance!!!

But this won't give you free energy as you don't get rid of the sticky spot.
You just have two spots overlapping each other. Been there, done that.

XS-NRG

Who said anything about free energy?
This thread is about escaping the sticky spot and it certainly does that.

gyulasun

Quote from: XS-NRG on July 28, 2010, 09:18:38 AM
hello gyulasun

No patents.
What i mean is best explained by using stepper motors.
They have designed sticky spots and are quite powerfull.
The sticky spots give the motor a lot of resistance when it is turned, so we will remove them.

You need two do do this.
Take them apart and put the two rotors on one axis like shown below.
Now you adjust the "magnetic timing" for i have no other name, in a way that when the first rotor is at the sticky spot, the second is in the pull or push area.

The result will be a very smooth rotation and a double output when used as a dynamo.
Now it is easy to rotate the dual rotor motor because one rotor pulles the other over the sticky spot on the same axis.

Here are some pic's to go with the idea.

Hi XS-NRG,

Well, it seems a good idea indeed to double the flux and get rid of the magnetic cogging of a stepper motor by "piggy-back" two of them. 

Would like to show you an interesting suggestion here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5890.0 

Maybe it is worth studying.

Thanks,  Gyula

maw2432

Quote from: FreeEnergy on May 22, 2010, 03:10:07 PM
escaping the magnetic sticky spot using leverage + kinetic momentum that builds up in the smot.

will it work?

Very nice idea...but I think you need to follow all the forces.

I have also given much thought to the idea of using leverage to overcome these sticky spots .   Two points I want to make.   


The magnetic field strength of magnets toward each other drops/increases exponentially over distance.  It has been shown to be true for repulsion as well as attraction of two magnets with minor difference. This needs to be taken in to consideration with respect to levers.  Only a short distance of moving a stator may be all that is needed to overcome the sticky spot.       

For a lever:

The force applied (at end points of the lever) is proportional to the ratio of the length of the lever arm measured between the fulcrum (pivoting point) and application point of the force applied at each end of the lever.
 

I beleive these two facts need to be worked together to achieve possible OU with respect to an all magnetic motor.   

My best...

Bill