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[gyulasun]

hi everyone

i don't know why its so hard for someone to accept that discharging a capacitor in a coil is the real source for free energy, even tesla says that capacitor is the most wonderful instrument ever been discovered. 

Dear Tito L. Oracion,

Tesla said it indeed but why? 

Because he found that he could control the rate of discharge of the capacitor by the switching time,  i.e.  he used up the given amount of the  stored energy in a shorter time than was needed to charge the same capacitor up.  This way he got higher energy to use for his purposes than he could have got from a normal generator with which he had charged up the capacitor.  BUT the 'price' he paid for this higher energy was that the capacitor discharged more quickly!  i.e. the stored energy in the cap was used up more rapidly than the time needed for charging it up. 
Of course this can be done, no problem with this, because it is up to you how quickly or slowly you are going to consume a certain amount of stored energy, either from a capacitor or from other energy storage device.

So there seems to be no free energy here unless you show it differently?

Thanks,  Gyula

[Tito L. Oracion]

Dear Tito L. Oracion,

Tesla said it indeed but why? 

Because he found that he could control the rate of discharge of the capacitor by the switching time,  i.e.  he used up the given amount of the  stored energy in a shorter time than was needed to charge the same capacitor up.  This way he got higher energy to use for his purposes than he could have got from a normal generator with which he had charged up the capacitor.  BUT the 'price' he paid for this higher energy was that the capacitor discharged more quickly!  i.e. the stored energy in the cap was used up more rapidly than the time needed for charging it up. 
Of course this can be done, no problem with this, because it is up to you how quickly or slowly you are going to consume a certain amount of stored energy, either from a capacitor or from other energy storage device.

So there seems to be no free energy here unless you show it differently?

Thanks,  Gyula

Hi sir good day 

Actually for me its not the rate of discharge that is important here, its the arrangement of capacitor discharging separate from the source to the coil, tom bearden showed it many times actually.and i got success on it!.

did you try discharging many caps sequentially on a coil? and charging them sequentially also?

take note:
               NO BATTERY DISCHARGING!

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING WHY YOU CAN'T GET IT.

[gyulasun]

Hi sir good day 

Actually for me its not the rate of discharge that is important here, its the arrangement of capacitor discharging separate from the source to the coil, tom bearden showed it many times actually.and i got success on it!.

did you try discharging many caps sequentially on a coil? and charging them sequentially also?

take note:
               NO BATTERY DISCHARGING!

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING WHY YOU CAN'T GET IT.

Hi Tito L. Oracion,

Thanks for the answer, and no,  I have not tried discharging many caps sequentially on a coil yet, sounds interesting!  And do you mean you always recharge the caps from the flyback pulse, also in sequence,  once you started from the first cap charged up from a battery?

Unfortunately, it takes energy from the battery to charge a cap up for a start and all the switching (or discharging) sequence of the caps also consumes energy...  This is what I found in case of energy transfer between two caps via a coil.  Well, I do not rule out any clever solution that may bring a COP of around 1. Maybe you have found already a setup that works with a COP >1    in this case my hat off to you and congratulations indeed.  Perhaps you could throw some ideas on that as some bones to me?

I found your thread on this same topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6250.0 and unfortunately nobody answered your last question in the end of the thread:

"" is it efficient if we discharge a little the caps in a coil?
and is it possible if we do it in a sequence of multiple caps? ""

So now it seems you have answered your own question. When could you throw some bones? 

Thanks,  Gyula

[Tito L. Oracion]

Hi Tito L. Oracion,

Thanks for the answer, and no,  I have not tried discharging many caps sequentially on a coil yet, sounds interesting!  And do you mean you always recharge the caps from the flyback pulse, also in sequence,  once you started from the first cap charged up from a battery?

Unfortunately, it takes energy from the battery to charge a cap up for a start and all the switching (or discharging) sequence of the caps also consumes energy...  This is what I found in case of energy transfer between two caps via a coil.  Well, I do not rule out any clever solution that may bring a COP of around 1. Maybe you have found already a setup that works with a COP >1    in this case my hat off to you and congratulations indeed.  Perhaps you could throw some ideas on that as some bones to me?

I found your thread on this same topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6250.0 and unfortunately nobody answered your last question in the end of the thread:

"" is it efficient if we discharge a little the caps in a coil?
and is it possible if we do it in a sequence of multiple caps? ""

So now it seems you have answered your own question. When could you throw some bones? 

Thanks,  Gyula

Hi sir good day
try it in a high voltage dc then make a pulse with a small current, yes we use energy input but a little only compared to the output it produce!

let one arm of the coil be connected already to the cap when charging it so that it becomes more efficient when caps is discharge , all we need is very small movement of the electron to produce a large output!

P.S. Bigger magwire makes strong magnetic field isn't it? 

Note:

BE CAREFULL 

[johnkhutchison]

THANKS I ENJOY YOUR WORK CHEERS JOHN