ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

[forest]

Mags

I think you you got it right !   

I'm trying the other version with parallel resonant circuit  as Tito shown also (see picture)
One problem : ordinary 230/24V transformer probably do not allow large enough current on the secondary side when connected in reverse .We need a large power toroidal version transformer and better maybe to wind by hand.
Do you think two relays could be placed in one circuit , both in self -oscillating mode ?  Ah,I see the problem may be relay coil resistance not allowing big current to flow to transformer coil !

[Magluvin]

Thanks forest  ;]

That circuit is what Ossie used, and he claimed to charge the running battery and another one.   The 2 switches, in my opinion need to be very precise as to switching together. As Ossie said it takes some fine tuning. I imagine so with 2 separate reeds.  possibly using reed relays, being that the coils consume very little current, could be used with a timer circuit to pulse the coil and eliminate the rotor. I dont believe the rotor contributes as much as the coil capture does.  Air core gens seem quite weak.

Mags

[wattsup]

@all

I have some questions to ask you guys on what really happens when you pulse a coil.

Ok, you have a power supply positive (P) connected to a first side of a coil (C1). The coil has a center tap (CT) and the other coil end C2 is connected to one side of a momentary switch (S1) that is normally open and the other side of the switch (S2) is connected to to the power supply negative (N). So in simple short form, this set-up would look like......
P-C1-C2-S1-S2-N
Simple enough, so here are three first questions.

1) With the switch open, if you put your volt meter on S1 and S2, what is the polarity of S1?

2) When the switch is closed what happens to the polarity you identified at S1 or asked another way, where does the polarity you identified at S1 go? I mean, if there is a polarity there that exists, then if it is now longer there, it has to go somewhere. It cannot just disappear. So........

3) When the switch is open again, where does the polarity of S1 come from to be again at its landed position?

Oh, I forgot, the coil has a 2" diameter single layer of 250 turns of 24 awg magwire. The diameter and number of turns is irrelevant (it could be a straight piece of wire) but I want to give you something that really had a wide spread between input and output.

I invite everyone to answer this question, both from the more classical EEers here and from the less classical OUers.

Please do not expand further then this set-up. Stay focused on these three questions. Take your time, this is not a race. What we need to talk about is exactly confined to these limits, and then, if things go well, we can move forward from there.

I know this is off topic but what is the topic of this thread anyways.

Last thing. When I ask about polarity, I mean positive or negative and not north and south.

wattsup

[Magluvin]

Hey Watts

1
If the pos meter lead is on s1 and the neg meter lead is on s2, and the switch is open, s1 would be identified as positive in reference to s2. ;]

2
Seems like a loaded question, considering the post hints to a test of sorts. If we were still referencing from s2, and well knowing that the switch has some resistance, s1 can still be measured and considered positive in reference to s2. ;]

3
Well, I dont think I have ever heard of this description as to the positive, or negative as being something that moves around as if it were a ball or object.  But as I see it, if we opened the switch, with the meters leads in place as before, once the field collapse settles from its oscillation, the posititve would still be s1 with reference to s2.

All answered as to how i understood the question.  ;]

Nothing is off topic here, for a long time now. ;]  its Titos lounge.

Mags

[gyulasun]

Hi Wattsup,

1) and 2)   I agree with Mags.  Notice to 2): polarity remains the same as in 1) but voltage amplitude gets down to the microVolt or mV range (to that of the voltage drop across the switch).

3) Suppose your 'polarity meter' is a scope,  then you could see the opposite polarity voltage spike on S1 wrt S2 what the collapsing field in your coil creates. And then the polarity returns to power supply positive as stated in 1).


Gyula