ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

[gyulasun]

Tesla s birthday today

Actually, today is Tesla's death day.  See any link on like http://www.biography.com/people/nikola-tesla-9504443

[gyulasun]

Hi all,
Im a little busy at work lately, but at this moment i cannot get good results from my setup, maybe the kick from the primary is not strong enough with the starting voltage 10- 12vdc from cap to get a higher secondary voltage or equal, need to try another coil setup, where primary bifilar ontop of secondary, i'll make one half of coil only as Mags suggested...
Happy experimenting! 
Regards
Cc

Try to use higher DC voltage level in the caps like 15 - 20V or maybe 30 and so on.  Also try to do the test I suggested to totoalas above like collecting the voltage spike of the collapsing flux of L1 in C2, when S1 is just switched off, see the schematic in red rectangle.

[forest]

there is a problem with relays- spark or arc is formed...remember what Tesla said about spark gap looses and why he invented quenched various types
I know why we have so much problems - Tesla routed into HV but also large power to compensate looses...we cannot, right ?
all you need to do is ring the bell and bell rings TWICE and you have to catch second ring or echo ring
that's all
unfortunately I'm struggle with electronics to allow all conditions...very slow progress.....no working device yet 

[totoalas]

To ring the bell
Use peter linderman plasma mod output in parallel witj s1 and s2 alternately
From spark to plasma from arther as he quoted
Better if the coil is earthed
Any more ideas    otits

[gyulasun]

Hi Romero,

There is one more thing I would like to discuss with you in connection with thyristor switching with respect to Tito's circuit. One thing is that if you let the thyristor discharge a capacitor fully, then the current decays exponentially towards zero and when the thyristor current goes below its minimum sustainable current, it switches off but this is far not as sudden as a controlled MOSFET switch-off can be. AND by the time the thyristor reaches and pass its minimum current limit to conduct, the voltage level across the capacitor may get reduced to a rather low voltage hence the amplitude of the kick back spike at the actual current greatly depends on the thyristor characteristics  i.e. at relatively low current and voltage levels the recovered energy going into the capacitors may be also low inherently.

The other thing is that member verpies has posted  valuable info on pulse switching coils and the energy content involved with respect to switch-off time, here: http://www.overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg352483/#msg352483 where he wrote: "The energy stored in the magnetic field (EL) is recoverable, while the energy converted to heat (ER) in the resistance is not recoverable. The break-even-point happens at approximately 1.15 of the L/R time constant (see point C on the graph, where the green and blue lines cross). Waiting longer than this time guarantees that more energy is dissipated as heat than stored in the magnetic field   This is true in any circuit where energy is stored in the inductor. Including oscillating LC circuits.
In practice, the process of energy recovery from the inductor also takes time, and during this time the evil resistance also wastes energy, so this recovery process should be kept as short if possible (e.g by keeping the duty cycles low or frequencies high). If the recovery process takes the same amount of time as the inductor charging proceess, then the break-even-point happens two times earlier."   

The last sentence defines a stricter ON time for the switch (it is around 0.5*L/R second) than I referred to as to be around 1*L/R in my post to crazycat here: http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg352281/#msg352281 

So in this circuit Tito described it seems that a correctly controlled switching device is preferred to use, adapting the optimal switching times to the coils used. I am aware that allowing relatively short ON times for the switches can easily lead to relatively small spike amplitudes again if we start with relatively low capacitor voltage, this also indicates to increase the precharged voltage in the caps from several ten Volts to above a 100 Volts range to get higher discharge current and let it flow in the coils.

I am sure you can find the optimal switch-on time for any coil by using your favorite thyristors too,  but for most replicators here such background info on the switch-on time may prove useful and maybe using a more precisely controllable switch makes life easier for them in this respect to achive the best recovery from a collapsing magnetic field.
What do you think?

rgds, Gyula

EDIT:   here is verpies earlier post on his topic:
http://www.overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg336989/#msg336989