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ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

Started by Tito L. Oracion, February 06, 2009, 01:45:08 AM

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Quote from: Magluvin on October 19, 2013, 01:57:28 AM
Hey weizisky

So do we want to push once in a while, or a bit each cycle? A pendulum would simulate an LC, where when the pen is at full swing upward, that would be voltage, stored pressure, and during the fast bottom swing, that would be current flow, then the swing up the other side is the neg voltage build till peak height.

So as to when we should apply the minimum 'push' to keep the pen swinging, is most likely just before or at the natural pen swing height. Left or right top swing height. it would require too much energy to try and add push while in full speed bottom swing. So we want to add push/voltage when the pen reaches or near peak, just enough to take it over the top.

But what has always eluded me is how to take energy from the pen without causing it to drastically slow down, thus needing more push to make up for it. ;D ;D

Mags


Tha answer is silly. You have to NOT take energy from the pen, actually you have to PUT a bit of energy each time to cover looses (or to rise amplitude if you want parametric resonance). That is the second resonance.

lancaIV

                  linear /rotational energy kind con-/inverter  behaviour
                                 with kineto-/electro dynamic (turbo)potential :

      the underunity is ever the "micro/macro machina" capacity limit and not the
                   in/output relation cause this can be    a.<1     b.=1     c >1

             beginning with W=1/2mv² kinetic converter/concentrator and amplifier

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&PA=alan+lebost
part of one description:


[0007] ~lowever, in the construction of twin impeller wind machines, one impeller has always been placed behind the other in paral- lel, vertical planes. Accordingly, both impellers must get their energy from the same wind field while rotating in oppo- [/font]site directions which is inefficient and causes undesirablecentrifugal forces. Furthermore, many attempts have been made to impar~ specific designs to the impellers so that they can spin in light as well as strong fluid currents. Such impellers have taken the form of exposed air foils, sails and paddles. However, many of these rotor structures are inefficient be- cause as they rotate away from the fluid force, they also must return to their starting point and therefore, must cut back into the source of fluid, which tends to retard their rotation. It will be appreciated from the above discussion that fluid powered turbines have mainly been machines placed in fluid currents to rotate from the direc~ force of that current as it moves past a rotor or impeller that is con- nected to an electrical generator. Little has been done inthe way of molding, shaping, directing, or increasing the velocity of the fluid upon the rotor arrangement. In theory, the power available ~rom a fluid current is propor~ional to the cube of the fluid current velocity. If the existing fluid velocity could be doubled, the power output would multiply by a factor of 8. An increase of 5 m.p.h. of the impinging fluid upon the rotor wherein the initial fluid velocity is in the range of 15 - 30 m.p.h., would result in [0008] 111786B doubling the power output. Therefore, the most powerful fluid driven machine would be one in which means are pro- vided to increase the velocity of the arriving fluid and which is designed for maximum efficiency.

2 rotors on 1 shaft ~ 2 Dysons "virtual rotor"-s on 1 shaft ~ 2 condenser coils on 1 shaft


here the hydraulic converter and spezific the "formula"(original document ,page 3) in the description
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&PA=kango+iida

According to the present invention, a turbine stage is provided which comprises a first turbine rotor which carries an internal gear and a second turbine rotor which carries planetary gears. One or more such turbine stages are mounted on a common pinion shaft in such a way that the first and second turbine rotors alternate. The first and second turbine rotors have blades which are right-handed and left-handed, respectively, so that they are rotated in opposite directions.[/font]With such arrangement as described above, the internal gear and the planetary gears can be rotated in opposite directions but at the same rotational speed, so that as compared with the conventional hydraulic turbine in which the internal gear is held stationary the rotational speed of the pinion shaft can be almost doubled. In contrast with the conventional turbine with a single bladed rotor which is rotatable only in one direction, turbine rotors which are rotated in the opposite directions are mounted alternately on the common shaft so that a helical flow of a fluid through them can be eliminated. Consequently highly efficient power conversion can be ensured.


Therefore the turbine rotors and especially their blades 11 and 12 can be relatively easily designed and fabricated which have a higher safety factor capable of withstanding sudden increases in water or wind flow due to storms and heavy rains. In addition, the hydraulic energy converter or prime mover for high-capacity electric generators, pumps, compressors, frictional heat generators or the like can be fabricated at less costs.[/font]

modular-electric motor-cascade or modular-electric generator-cascade or
               roto-motorcascade-generatorcascade-verter shaft

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&TI=dynamoelectric&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&PA=esters


http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19801111&CC=US&NR=4233532A&KC=A


and this completed with condens(ator)er-coils.


Next step: rotoric transformer to static transformer (transverter)
micronizing,array/net and so on.

Again: here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biot%E2%80%93Savart_law
Magnetic responses applications[edit]The Biot–Savart law can be used in the calculation of magnetic responses even at the atomic or molecular level, e.g. chemical shieldings or magnetic susceptibilities, provided that the current density can be obtained from a quantum mechanical calculation or theory.


Maxwells displacement(also Verschiebungs-/Blind/wattless ) current appliance :                                                           condenser coil

                                                 and
http://pesn.com/2013/08/03/9602351_TMR-Effect--Tunnel_MagnetoResistance--New_Source_of_Clean_Energy/
you get the history from the past -up to the possible own science - facts based-fiction/vision

Sincerely
              COWdL


stupify12

Quote from: Magluvin on October 18, 2013, 07:17:47 PM
Also i like the 15khz to 35khz. Id rather it not be in the radio range or higher.

So where does the secondary come into play? Does it affect the primary function when loaded? Should the sec be between the primaries?

Mags

Don't mind the secondary as long as you wound it near or perpendicular to the primary coil :P ::). As for does it affect the primary- it doesn't affect the primary at all ::) 8) :o ;D :D.This what Tesla called loose coupling which can permit to great resonant rise.  :D ;D ::) :P :-*Think of the secondary as a peanut butter or any sandwich spread, how do you eat sandwich and sandwich spread= separately? or together spood feed or alternately spoon feed to your mouth? ;D ;D ;D I think you spread the sandwich spread to the sandwich> Right? ;D ;D ;D ;D

stupify12

Quote from: Magluvin on October 18, 2013, 09:56:27 PM
1 more question, if you dont mind.  ;D I have many questions. I have only posed a very small percentage.  ;)

Use of bifi in a motor. If we were to replace a normal winding of a motor, would we need to wind 2 separate bifilar windings in place of the single normal coil, or would it be that the the stator is bifilar 'and' the armature is bifilar?  Back then permanent magnets were not used in motors or speakers.  ;)

Mags

If I were to replace a normal winding of a Magluvin Motor?, I don't need to wind 2 separate bilifar windings in place of the single normal coil either it is the rotor or the stator/field coils. I will wound 2 coils(BIFILAR) on stator or rotor, which is parallel wound connected in series-Coil A and Coil B, I will connect the ending of Coil A to the Starting winding of Coil B. We now only have two terminal=the Starting of Coil A and Ending of Coil B.  8) 8) :o

We are only dealing here with a Magluvin Motor, because of the limited space on the motor we cant make the Self Powered LC Tank on this motor. IF you want to wound Generating Coil in Bifilar mode like how Thane Heins made his RegenX, you will get a good performance. :o :o 8) ;D ;D

Meow ::)