ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

[d3x0r]

If the conventional theory is correct then we should see this interaction on the secondary, Im sorry to say we dont and we can see this with a very simple experiment.
If the model above were correct the meter should never fall into the pos range but have only a neg reaction
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD6NjIDs4DU

The galvanometer, when attached by a coil to another coil is a measuring device for the change in current in the primary.

1) first state, everything 0; and for further purposes I'll use 0 for - DC side
2) the current begins to flow, which induces a current in the same direction in the other side.  Generating one side towards + and one side towards 0.
3) the current is stable, and no induction happens on the secondary, so the galvanometer goes to 0
4) the current begins to stop, which will induce an opposite current in the secondary.

they are opposite (at rise and at fall), as demonstrated in the video.... (Edit: the first current in the secondary is in the opposite direction... if the a bifilar coil is used, and 0 on one side and + on the other, a rising current from 0 to + will result in + on the secondary on the same side... which is a reversed current.)


But a + (in the correct polarity) would indicate rising current and a - a falling current... and 0 doesn't mean there is current or is not current in the primary.

Edit2: what's interesting is...
1) the first reaction is both sides go slightly high, then the low side dips low and then levels at a low...  and opposite at the other side, so there's an initial dip low right when the current starts reversing (both going in same direction of voltage change)... I think that's probably the capacitance of the coil... the electrostatic charging/discharging on the low side
2) the voltage hold time... would think it should ring back into the coil instead of staying high... (may be coil characteristic)  the only decay is a very slow slope from the resistance to ground in the probe

[Dave45]

Stupify made a suggestion earlier about two secondary's sandwiching the primary.
This may be a good idea, the inner secondary to catch femf and the outer secondary to catch the bemf.

I wonder if this would work on the mazzili circuit setup, three coils on each side, one primary on each side and two secondary's on each side.

[d3x0r]

Stupify made a suggestion earlier about two secondary's sandwiching the primary.
This may be a good idea, the inner secondary to catch femf and the outer secondary to catch the bemf.

I wonder if this would work on the mazzili circuit setup, three coils on each side, one primary on each side and two secondary's on each side.

sure; if you weren't already capturing 100% of the field, you could capture more, but if you're already above 50%, you'll see losses on both... if you're original pickups were only at 5%, you could add a lot before noticing the cap
Sorry you may be right; I'm not discounting entirely... just saying for arguments sake

[Dave45]

I have to be honest I dont see overunity in a simple primay to secondary devise, alternating current works perfectly with the rise and fall of a coil effectively using femf and bemf.

Maybe standing waves or plasma but not induction, personally Im going to play with the Rodin type coils to concentrate a spinning field and see where that leads.

If we could ever find a way to pull the energy from the core (collect lenz) then maybe, I have a few idea's that I will be trying as time permits.

dave

[lancaIV]

Re: Harmonic Oscillating Power Electric generator video
« Reply #138 on: May 07, 2007, 12:59:11 PM »
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    I have been trying to post the following message for the last several days. Every time I try my browser is shut down. I will attempt to upload the final revised "HOPE for the Future" .pdf file under the subject heading "HOPE Testing". Therefore please check there for this file if you are interested.


Jim
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Hi Everyone,

    I appoligize for appearing to have disappeared. We have had some major problems with everyone being sick around here for the last 6 months. Numerous hospitalizations with pneumonia, blood poisoning, MRCA, abscessed teeth, etc.., etc.., and the folks need a lot of help getting along each day anymore. Anyway,........ I am attaching the latest and hopefully the final revision of the "HOPE for the Future" Construction, Assembly, and Basic Information paper for those who are interested. I completeing forgot to remove all mention of permanent magnets from the former copies and of course later discoveries showed that magnets actually serve no purpose at all in the HOPE Generator design.

I would also like to point out once again that I am not nor have I ever claimed that the current HOPE model is in fact a "Free Energy Technology", and I can only hope that people will make certain that they don't go telling others that I am making such claims. I visited Sterlings PES website just an hour or so ago and it appears that he has once again taken the liberty of mis-quoting me for some reason. I have been attempting to get through to Sterling by e-mail but once again my messages are being rejected so if anyone feels compelled please ask him to remove the claim of free energy in reference to my HOPE Generator.  For any of you who would like to contact me you can write me at jfauble@sbcglobal.net and make certain to write HOPE 4 Me in the Subject line so I'll know that it's not just spam.

It would be very nice to talk one on one with those who are interested in this discovery and I believe we might actually be able to make more progress than this environment allows. I would also like to take this time to say that despite the fact that Freedomfuel has been a bit of a thorn in my side at times that he has been right on about 90+% of everything that he's commented on in regards to his theories on why the HOPE Generator functions as it does. Freedomfuel you have a fairly keen insight on many things and you have been instrumental in giving me some idea's about where to go in redesigning future HOPE models to function even more efficiently. In particular your thoughts on rotating magnetic fields as well as the "Earthquake Lightning" theory are very perceptive and I believe that you have a very good understanding of what is going on to cause the results we are seeing in a HOPE Unit.

I have decided to make the newly revised "HOPE for the Future" paper available to this forum and a very few others who have shown genuine interest in this phenomenon. I only ask that you restrict this information to yourselves and other members within this forum unless you first ask for my consent to share it with others. Also, please remember that though I am not claiming that HOPE is a free energy technology yet it certainly appears to be closer to it than anything else I have seen in my 30+ years of research, and I am so sure that it can be further developed by using the knowledge gained through experimentation and some of the insights that perceptive people have already shown in this forum.

After many attempts to reproduce the claimed results of Tom Bearden's MEG Unit I knew that there had to be something wrong with the picture so-to-speak. Remember that permenant magnets are not required nor do they serve any purpose in the HOPE design, and very small audio signals can produce even higher voltages in a HOPE Generator than anything that has been claimed with a MEG. I have learned a great deal through the last 6 to 7 years that I've been building these kinds of devices and I think we now have much more solid information to explain the undependable results that have been reported by most MEG builders. Freedomfuel already seems to have a very good understanding of the physics involved and that is quite impressive to me since he has never had the opportunity to personally examine or experiment with an actual HOPE Unit. BTW Freedomfuel, I have signed out of the ISBP OS Project and if it is going to be reproduced someone else is going to have to head it up and fund it. I hope you are satisfied, and I completely understand your concerns as I have had the same concerns. To bad there are so many evil people out there who can only see weapons instead of the tools to heal that we could have.

I'd like to share something else with you all that I doubt that anyone here has considered. Does anyone know who Stanley Meyers is? I'm sure that some of you do. Stanley Meyers discovered a way to use high voltage (HV) at very miniscule current levels to split large amounts of hydrogen and oxygen from H2O instead of the other way around. Meyers used a ramped DC pulse frequency to accomplish this task. One of the reasons that I see the discovery of the HOPE phenomenon as exciting as I do is that I can see how Meyers technique might be employed using a properly designed HOPE Generator. It should enable a person to get by with using far less actual power to achieve the same results. Since a HOPE Unit actually opperates better or at least as well on audio signals, it isn't difficult for me to see how these two pieces of the puzzle might fit together. Okay, so some might say that the difference is that a HOPE Unit puts out AC when Meyers used DC. So has anyone ever heard of a rectifier? Well, it just so happens that one of the other things that I haven't mentioned so far is that there is another very nice thing about a HOPE Unit that should come in handy for this application. That is, When you rectify the HV AC coming out of a HOPE Unit you get the same voltage in DC potential. I know that some of you will probably call me a liar, and I know that thats not suppose to happen but it does with a HOPE Generator. There are a few other phenomenon and anomalies that myself and others have witnessed but I sure don't want to get into anymore arguments with someone who assumes that I'm either off my rocker or just some idiot who doesn't know what I'm talking about. Been there, done that to many times to count and you can't prove anything to someone who knows everything without ever seeing anything.

The only thing I don't like about what I see happening with a HOPE Unit is that no matter what kind of waveform you put into the thing, you always get a sine wave at the output end. So far I haven't been successful at remedying this and I would prefer to be able to see the same waveform coming out as I am putting into the unit. However, I'm confident that some of you already know how the waveform could be converted into a square wave, a triangle wave, or whatever without changing the voltage potential or current value to much. Unfortunately I'm no expert on microcircuit design and I admit that this has been my biggest problem in determining whether or not its actually possible to close the loop on any of my current models.

In closing I just want to mention that I have tried to post this message a half dozen times over the period of the last several days and every time my browser is shut down. I never have the problems that I have trying to surf or post anything anywhere else on the Net so whatever the problem is, it seems to have something to do with this site in particular. I've had so many problems with trying to browse or post anything here that I begin to stress out even before I attempt to log in. If anyone else is experiencing the same or similar things please let others here know so Stefan can look into it. Have a great week everyone and I hope that this information will help to enlighten someone at least a little bit.


Cheers,

Jim
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