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ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

Started by Tito L. Oracion, February 06, 2009, 01:45:08 AM

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Magluvin

Quote from: forest on October 05, 2010, 03:37:33 AM
I'm not sure how to understand coil polarization during disconnection. Assume we have charged coil from DC source of high current then we disconnect + from battery to coil and coil energy collapse. We know that coil tries to maintain current flow and become a source. What is the polarity of coil-source then ? Is that the same a battery so we have + on disconnected coil end and - on the other ?


Forest

the coils can produce BEMF, but first it will need to produce a continued emf.  When we collect BEMF,Reverse, it is a product of when you disconnect the coil from power, the coil will oscillate a bit on its own, due to internal inductance and capacitance.  If the continued emf is not able to continue out of the coil(when disconnected) then it will change polarity and try to go the opposite way. And if it cant go that way either, then it just dies quickly.  I posted this here earlier, that the continued flow of emf is probably stronger than if left to reverse(bemf) because with each oscillating phase within the coil, it is dieing quickly..

The continued forward emf is what gets my earlier precharge circuit to nearly double the voltage into the cap from the source. Using a diode to not let the caps charge get away, once the coil gets energized, and the cap reaches the source voltage, the coil is not done yet, Inertia within the coil will pull more from the source than its potential.  Inductance is in opposition to current change.  Once current really begins to flow in the coil, if you take the source current away, the coil is in opposition to that change and wants to let it continue to flow.
So if you Kick the coil, the current flows as if you kicked a ball and it continues to want to roll. And will stop eventually due to resistances.


Here is code that shows the 2 differences in bemf and the femf I am speaking of.   And the sim is working properly for these functions. It is a very simple project to try.  You can even place a cap inline with the diode on the circuit on the left and the cap will charge from femf.
I believe the bemf is a step lower in power capabilities than the first wave of femf inertial flow. 

In the first circuit on the left, charge up the coil then let loose and watch the current flow. In the 2nd circuit, charge the coil, and as you charge the coil, the cap will be charged close to source also due to the diode polarity, but when released, the femf has nowhere to go. So when it reaches its end of that coil self oscillation phase, it goes the other way and sends charge to the cap though the diode and we get more volts than source.
Once the coil has a path for the charge to go, if the receiver takes it all and doesnt give any back, the coil will be at rest and will need recharge from the source.


Mags

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nievesoliveras

My personal opinion is that @tito does not give any good advice because he does not know it himself and he is waiting for one of you to find the answer and post it asking him if that was what he was doing and he will say, that its exactly what I was doing.

Remember I could be wrong though.

Jesus

IWD

That is classic phenomenom that people belive in free energy so much, that adapt fact to the teory, instead making teory from fact.
And fact is, tilo just say : hey, I have free energy and you dont, but it is sooo easy hahaha, and I will not tell you. Fact is, he do not show anything. Fact is, there is no reason to believe.
So he is actualy joining to a huge community on the internet, which create bigger fog around free energy, that is fact.
But this is public forum, where anybody can write, thanks for that, but we must keep in mind it. His word maby inspire someone. but directly lead nowhere, as we are seen many times. More people are confused instead inspired.And author enjoy it, so why not.

stprue

Quote from: forest on October 02, 2010, 05:22:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cUS03yNl40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9irQJ6mivs&feature=related

I know that videos were posted previously but I like them  ;D
still not sure how it works but I feel it is related to Tesla igniter patent
I think I should compare schematics

Sorry to bring this back up but how small of a scale can this process work?  How much usable energy can we get or does it depend on how fast we hit the switch ie short the wires together ???

Magluvin

I have seen the vids this guy did a while back.  In the one vid with the spark gap. He describes that the battery does not have enough energy to get the gap to spark but the cap does.  Sounds and looks logical.  But if the primary of that transformer were about 10% of the turns as what it has, the batteries would work and HAVE enough power to make the gap spark.  His definition of power seems off.  But he does have some interesting vids and some very basic ways of showing the ideas.

The first vid seems as if he is doing my precharge circuit without a diode and getting more than double voltage, where I have not gotten more than double in sim or on the bench with the diode in this config.  Tesla, his rotary switches were his diodes. Timing.   This guy had timing with his slap of an alligator clip.  =]


Mags