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ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

Started by Tito L. Oracion, February 06, 2009, 01:45:08 AM

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Magluvin

Well.  Im not being impressed with what I have. Actually this transformer is not performing anything like I thought it would.  Ive been trying different things, but maybe Ive been doing it wrong.

Was thinking at work today, and came up with 2 things that lead me to a possible finish line.


First thing, I built a relay pulser circuit for my boss, as his brother in law wants flames to come out of his exaust with a sparking mechanism.  The relay was set up so that the normally closed contacts sent power to the relay coil to switch the contacts, and oscillates at about 60hz with a 10 uf cap across the coil to elongate the relay activation time, so when the relay is fully activated, it sends gnd to the spark coil as would an ignition system.  My sparks were very weak.
So I tried a condenser across the contacts and bam! big 2 in sparks.  But thats not the interesting part, when I applied the spark to a spark plug, without the condenser, a very fine line spark was visible, but with the condenser, there were many sparks next to each other, as if the condenser, cap, was oscillating with the coils primary and producing multiple sparks.   So the cap across the points, or contacts are not just for rf interference purposes, or just for preserving the contacts, though it does both, but mostly its to produce oscillation in the primary.  So in the Igniter pat, I see the cap and primary oscillating after(during) discharge, not just simple discharge.
In my spark coil project, the primaries in those coils are about 1 ohm.  Seems like a bit more ohms than we are possibly seeing in Kapanadze wiring, or even Don Smith or even Tesla.  I was amazed to visually see it. 1 thin quick spark vs multiple sparks that was over a greater course of time vs thin spark.

Second thing.  Bifi coils.  I have done some experiments with a few with results that had shown no difference. So I set that idea down for a bit. Something came to me on something I had read a while back.  Tito has claimed trifi and bifi, with his last statement that the bifi gives greater magnetic field than a normal coil, of which is also what I had read.  As for what came to me was that tesla said that the higher the voltage discharged into the bifi, the better the effect was in the advantages of using bifi.  So this is where and why we will need high voltage discharge from the cap, because the bifi is a non linear amplifier of sorts. The higher the input the greater the multiple applied to the bifi effect.   A normal transformer is probably just that, normal as we know it.

So with both things in mind, I would say that we would want the cap to remain across the coil for some time to oscillate, no?  Charge cap, discharge cap, hold and oscillate, then kick again.

Im working on that tonight. The transformer I have , I will try separating the secondary pairs to try and convert it to bifi, of which I think it will work. If not, I will post results and a vid to show wuts uP and move on to a home made transformer with a bifi primary.

Mags

Sprocket

Quote from: Magluvin on November 08, 2010, 07:06:54 PM
.....Second thing.  Bifi coils.  I have done some experiments with a few with results that had shown no difference. So I set that idea down for a bit. Something came to me on something I had read a while back.  Tito has claimed trifi and bifi, with his last statement that the bifi gives greater magnetic field than a normal coil, of which is also what I had read.  As for what came to me was that tesla said that the higher the voltage discharged into the bifi, the better the effect was in the advantages of using bifi.  So this is where and why we will need high voltage discharge from the cap, because the bifi is a non linear amplifier of sorts. The higher the input the greater the multiple applied to the bifi effect.   A normal transformer is probably just that, normal as we know it......

Hi.  Is this what you are referring to;

http://www.tesla-coil-builder.com/bifilar_electromagnet.htm

If so, it doesn't work - tried it!

Jean Louis Naudin even referenced this link in one of his articles, (which was the reason I tried the 2-nail experiment to begin with) and as I subscribe to his Yahoo group, I tried posting about this but seems to have been 'moderated' out of existence...  Strange group, you get no posts for months, then a flood of them will come, then nothing again...

Magluvin

Here is a vid my friend made a while back.  It is a quad fi coil. He shows the effects described.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbFqVh7GdGk

Mags

Magluvin

Ive been studying a bit.   
I have this pat. from Tesla    http://www.keelynet.com/tesla/00512340.htm
Its a short read.  Right now Im looking for the debate, i think, of Tesla on the subject.  This is where he claims the higher the voltage, the effect becomes greater.

The pat explains the bifi coil.  He claims that it increases the self capacitance greatly and reduces self inductance.
Now I can see the capacitance thing working out, as each turn has a 50% difference in source potential to adjacent windings.
But decreasing self inductance, this must mean reducing the Henries of the coil as a whole. How would we calculate that? I suppose we would have to measure it to see where she rings.
And I would assume that lower self inductance means more instantaneous discharge current from the cap.

So this coil should ring shorted, once kicked, like an lc, but with greater capacitance than just a normally wound coil by itself.  Now I can see why we would need to disconnect the discharge cap at peak, to get the best results.

Im working on getting a larger discharge cap up to 50v or so to pulse the transformer. In my vid running the ac induction fan, I was just charging 5600uf cap to 12v.  I figure at 50v, the fan should really take off.
I need to do this to post the part 2 vid as some are waiting, and then make hard changes..

So I think the bifi is a key ingredient here.

After these projects I want to rewind a dc motor bifi.  Get 2, convert 1 and test.   Something my Great grandfather did has me thinking.  If the motor gets a stronger mag field on the coils than a regular winding, then it should produce more torque at no extra expense.  If the motor normally is 90% eff. maybe we can get something here.

Mags

IWD

Bifilar wound coil simply can contain more energy than normal coil, Thus that also bigger magnetic field. But it simply take the energy from source, as you are charging the capacitance betwen wires. That is the point of that patent, you simply can deliver more energy to that coil, which is not possible in normal coil.