ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

[Dave45]

If the buck converter ran at double or even triple the frequency of the boost then the cap would build up and dump into the boost converter.
You could hit the cell with very high voltage pulses, very high.
Lots of possibility's with this circuit.
It could also be set up to hit the cell with very high amperage pulses.
Ionize the coils 

[Bob Smith]

Hi Bob,

I am aware of the quote you refer to above. I think you understand what does the Tesla example of storing 10W in the capacitor i.e. saying it more precisely: storing 10 Joule energy in the capacitor mean?
OF course it means you can take out 10W power in 1 second or if you prefer, you can take out 100W power in 0.1 second or 1000W in 0.01 second and so on. The big question is that how the hugh power available for a fraction of time could be utilized, how its sudden effect could be exploited to "gain" extra energy?  This is the question.

Tesla seemed to give an answer for that question: discharge the cap very quickly into a small inductance coil which magnetically connected to a high inductance coil. However, he received extreme high voltages on the top end of his Tesla coil and obviously the coil stored huge amounts of circulating VAR power inside it.
Now how you could utilize this "big" power: if you load the coil in any way i.e. you match a load to it, you transform 'loss' i.e. the load into the coil and if somebody thinks that still there remains more energy in the coil than what was needed to charge up the capacitor at the start, then he or she has to prove it... to believe it.  It is known Tesla used HV generators in a continuous fashion to charge up the capacitors what he then suddenly discharged into the low inductance primary of the Tesla coil setup.

Still, if we are to believe that we can receive more energy from such process, then we have to prove it.  Maybe Tito managed it to prove for himself, he keeps silence on the how to...

You have referred to John Myatt: he seems to utilize the hugh HV for driving water fuel cell: i.e. he receives other energy type in the form of hydrogen and oxigen) in the end process what he utilizes.  I do not know if he gets more energy output in the end than the input was?

Returning to Igor's videos, what I wrote and included his schematic yesterday with some modification: maybe it is one step towards the idea of adding the bemf to the input but thinking it over now it seems to be limited in itself: it has but one stage so the capacitor voltage bounds to stay at a steady average voltage level (which may be a bit higher than the battery voltage but cannot go higher and higher). So several stages should be used and their output are gradually to be added up.
What John Myatt showed in his video on the "Tesla regenerative effect" I do not get it: he seems to add up two output voltages from two LC circuits on the oscilloscope display and the amplitudes of two frequencies gradually increase? What makes them increase I wonder? (this is the Myatt video you referred to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwK7mYIpjkM )

Rgds,  Gyula

Hi Gyula
Thanks for the thoughtful response. I think at this point we have at least a clearer idea of how to proceed with trying to develop Tito's concepts. Tesla gives us the principle, but within his scope of developing large amounts of power, and it seems John Myatt (from Stan Meyer) has used it for his wfc purposes. Igor's video, I think, is useful for illustrating a similar kind of bemf feedback concept that needs to be refined and adapted to our purposes, in light of what Tesla (and Myatt/Meyer) says.  My sense is that we need to keep looking at practical ways in which these principles have been developed and implemented, and discussing ways we can develop them ourselves.  I think this is what Dave45 is doing - we all bring to the virtual table our gifts and insights.

Perhaps 10 or 15 pages back, Tito mentioned that he was considering how he could find off-the-shelf components to develop this technology. I think this might be a direction for us to proceed once we've identified how to harness this beast and use it to our purposes.  It's really great to see this quest progressing and narrowing.

I have no additional answers right now other than to express my appreciation and admiration for the ongoing contributions of persons like yourself to this discussion.
Bob

PS: Teets, those epic fail videos make me wince! Ouch!!!

[Tito L. Oracion]

Hi Bob,

I am aware of the quote you refer to above. I think you understand what does the Tesla example of storing 10W in the capacitor i.e. saying it more precisely: storing 10 Joule energy in the capacitor mean?
OF course it means you can take out 10W power in 1 second or if you prefer, you can take out 100W power in 0.1 second or 1000W in 0.01 second and so on. The big question is that how the hugh power available for a fraction of time could be utilized, how its sudden effect could be exploited to "gain" extra energy?  This is the question.

Tesla seemed to give an answer for that question: discharge the cap very quickly into a small inductance coil which magnetically connected to a high inductance coil. However, he received extreme high voltages on the top end of his Tesla coil and obviously the coil stored huge amounts of circulating VAR power inside it.
Now how you could utilize this "big" power: if you load the coil in any way i.e. you match a load to it, you transform 'loss' i.e. the load into the coil and if somebody thinks that still there remains more energy in the coil than what was needed to charge up the capacitor at the start, then he or she has to prove it... to believe it.  It is known Tesla used HV generators in a continuous fashion to charge up the capacitors what he then suddenly discharged into the low inductance primary of the Tesla coil setup.

Still, if we are to believe that we can receive more energy from such process, then we have to prove it.  Maybe Tito managed it to prove for himself, he keeps silence on the how to...

You have referred to John Myatt: he seems to utilize the hugh HV for driving water fuel cell: i.e. he receives other energy type in the form of hydrogen and oxigen) in the end process what he utilizes.  I do not know if he gets more energy output in the end than the input was?

Returning to Igor's videos, what I wrote and included his schematic yesterday with some modification: maybe it is one step towards the idea of adding the bemf to the input but thinking it over now it seems to be limited in itself: it has but one stage so the capacitor voltage bounds to stay at a steady average voltage level (which may be a bit higher than the battery voltage but cannot go higher and higher). So several stages should be used and their output are gradually to be added up.
What John Myatt showed in his video on the "Tesla regenerative effect" I do not get it: he seems to add up two output voltages from two LC circuits on the oscilloscope display and the amplitudes of two frequencies gradually increase? What makes them increase I wonder? (this is the Myatt video you referred to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwK7mYIpjkM )

Rgds,  Gyula

Well, consider a motor without a capacitor.
well, lately i tried to eliminate a cap from the system and it also works using just the twisted coil i taught.
And believe me we need a good spark gap controller if we really want the tesla technology. 


Take note: No inverter! promise!


EVERYTHING IS COIL AMAZING!   IT REALLY CAN LAST!!!


I SAID DON'T KILL THE MOMENTUM, LET THE STONE ICE ROLL    


ACTUALLY 10W OF POWER TO START IS TOO BIG. 


WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE STARTING POINT OF MORRAY.   


IN THE COLORADO SPRING NOTE, WHAT DO YOU NOTICE ABOUT TESLA'S COILS.


THIS THING IS REALLY SIMPLE OK. 


BY THE WAY I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ERIC LAITHWAITE FOR HIS GYRO PROPULSION THAT'S AMAZING.
I WAN NA FLY!!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyvZGIlHEok
SORRY JUST CROSSING BYE 

[lancaIV]

Hello gyula,
quoting partially your message to Bob Smith:

...................

Returning to Igor's videos, what I wrote and included his schematic yesterday with some modification: maybe it is one step towards the idea of adding the bemf to the input but thinking it over now it seems to be limited in itself: it has but one stage so the capacitor voltage bounds to stay at a steady average voltage level (which may be a bit higher than the battery voltage but cannot go higher and higher). So several stages should be used and their output are gradually to be added up. [/size]What John Myatt showed in his video on the "Tesla regenerative effect" I do not get it: he seems to add up two output voltages from two LC circuits on the oscilloscope display and the amplitudes of two frequencies gradually increase? What makes them increase I wonder? (this is the Myatt video you referred to:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwK7mYIpjkM
Rgds,  Gyula


I prefer to show you one of Titos delivered videos : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuTMYgQDUzs&list=PLDC9F40DD5D92136D


                 The a. one down rolling ball solution and effect,11 to 11,5 cm   
                        b. the 180° pendulum (LC circuit/cycle )solution and effect,30 cm
                        c. the 270°(up to 360°) double  pendulum (flip&flop LC circuits/cycle )solution and effect, ? cm

                                                           
                                                 

  LLoyd Crump http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&IN=lloyd+crump&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC
                       4., 5., 6., 7., 9., 10., 11., 12.


                     "......So several stages should be used ....."  : syphon cascade                   Biology analogon  : Turgor
             
Sincerely
              OCWL

[Dave45]

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