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ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

Started by Tito L. Oracion, February 06, 2009, 01:45:08 AM

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Magluvin

Quote from: Bob Smith on October 11, 2016, 07:22:16 PM
Mags,
It does seem strange, compared to the usual Tesla-type setups, with the primary usually on the outside.
One thing I noticed, and I'm not sure...
- it looks like the upper secondary (over the primary) and the lower secondary are wound in opposite directions, but without seeing it from another angle, I can't be sure.  If that's the case, do we get the two oppositely wound coils essentially cancelling out each other's mag fields and putting out a lot voltage, like the series bifi coil?

If that's the case, then I'm assuming it would need to be stepped down to a useable level.
FWIW,
Bob

hey Bob

What Im thinking is, say the outer coil is the same dia but 100ft long. Is it still only the inner primary that is inducing the other 99ft of the outer coil, or is it the primary induced outer coil field of the 1 ft that feeds the other 99ft?  As we know the primary field strength and density diminish with distance, so it must not have much affect on the rest of the winding beyond say 2 ft.  Or is the primary field trapped inside the outer coil, due to the outer coils counter field, so as the pri field traverses the length of the 100ft, it just remains denser to induce the full length much more than I imagine?

I would recommend that anyone who attempts a Don Smith Build, to try it with both outer coils wound in the same continual direction and also another outer coil setup with them wound oppositely. Oppositely as in if we start both windings in the middle, they will be wound in the same direction, just the left one winding left and the right one winding to the right end of the tube.

Was thinking. These days it would be soo simple for someone to alter pics like these where it could give the full impression that one is wound one way or both the same. Just some photoshop around the coil ends and the middle starting points. Also, Ive seen wire wrap and soldered center taps. Why the separate outer windings if they are wound in the same direction?  ??? Why not just a nice single continuous wind and a center tap? Its not like the center tap wire couldnt be any size near what the diode leads or the capacitor leads are. ???   Is there a certain space needed between the 2 outer coil halves?   So it always has me thinking, by just about every thing I see, that the outer coils should be wound opposing..... Or, is it only one outer coil at a time that dumps though its diode pack then during the other phase the other coil dumps? That would be an interaction that I would like to visually understand.

Mags


forest

IMHO The part with capacitor is LC tank circuit, the other part is antenna. It has to be adjusted to both resonances.
If you think clearly about this setup , then the only way it may be overunity is by this : you put a discharge signal at primary slow frequency like 60Hz so there is plenty time between impulses. The secondary is matched and oscillate freely generating many many current kicks as not so much higher voltage then primary. So the results is output capacitors charge much faster then normal. Here is the magic. Capacitors charge at Mhz radio waves and electrons are taken from ground.

that_prophet

Quote from: that_prophet on September 22, 2016, 04:06:46 PM
This was given to me for the Tribulation Saints, (I ask my ABBA Father)
+ I don't think that they will have money to buy all of these expensive items.
When this is meant to be super simple + easy to build out of odd spare parts.
All that you need is a DC motor + an AC generator of the same voltage.
One large wheel/pulley, (like a bicycle rim) + at least one mini-pulley/wheel, (a thread role)
And a few full wave bridge rectifiers = (only 4 diodes each)
The hard part is when you would have to rig up a way to connect your motor + generators to your pulleys, (glue or threading of some sort,,, you cannot weld or bronze them, unless you found a way to disassemble them or heat sinks, to keep from frying your winding's)
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Lenz law sounds like something electronic, when this works om simple pulley mechanics = 100cm circumference pulley only turns once
+ this gives you 100 turns, X,(times) the # of 1cm circumference pulleys that you attach.
If you attach AC generators to each of these 1cm mini-pulleys,
you would gain 100 units of AC electricity, for every 1cm pulley that you attach.
This could be massive amounts of free AC electricity,
if you added 10's of these mini-pulleys then you would gain 1000's of units of AC electricity,
all done with one spark of DC current, (practically zero)
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that_prophet - Re: use pulleys to multiply total # of rotations = AC electricity
Quote from: citfta on October 14, 2016, 01:05:13 PM
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I don't understand how you can be so dense.  You have had numerous people tell you that your idea will not work.  That is because we actually have experience working with motors and generators.
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REPLY BY ME
I don't understand how mankind be so dense, to not see that this use of pulleys does not involve torque, but simple multiplication of rotations = multiplication of AC electricity. The AC generators are just winding up massive voltage, to turn over your DC motor, only the once, + no current, as you only need one spark to have this self powering.
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Now try and tell me that you would not be able to get one spark of DC output,
when you have 1000's of units of AC electricity to work with


citfta

MOTORS DO NOT RUN ON A SPARK OF ELECTRICITY!!  Follow the links I gave you and try to learn how motors and generators really work.  They do not work like your fantasy ideas.

Tesluh

My understanding is that l2 coil is two equal but wound opposite coils half cw and half ccw.  it was explained as two tesla coils laying flat.  still wish I had a for sure on length of the coils and wire size.  much of the secondary side schematic is still a mystery to me, so many conflicting schematics.  I believe I have the primary side figured out pretty well now.  I get a nice spark gap action and I can arc a screwdriver across the secondary coils which tells me the l1 is doing something to the l2 at least.  now getting them resonating in sync and figuring out what to do with the l2 side to get mains power.