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ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

Started by Tito L. Oracion, February 06, 2009, 01:45:08 AM

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gyulasun

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 29, 2009, 05:53:49 AM
Hi there!  ;D

very good !!! see the amplification?


Hi Tito,

We have seen voltage amplification so far but the title of this thread is Energy amplification.  Unfortunately the two are different.

It would be very convincing to make some real input -- output power measurement comparisons. 

If it is difficult to make, then just feed back some part of the output power to the input via a (preferably stabilized) DC-DC converter which may be a simple power supply able to receive 250-300V DC input from one of the capacitors and downconvert it to the needed 3-5V DC.  Computer power supply from the junk stores or television  or CRT monitors input power supplies include such working circuits right after their mains input connection.

I do not wish to be a naysayer here of course, once you show voltage amplification, I can say yes that is correct but what about the energy levels involved?

Thanks, Gyula

forest

I think energy amplification is done this way (this is my theory only):
1.You step up voltage a lot - probably to kV range
2. You have to step up or create higher frequency also
3. You inject small amount of charge from primary or from any other source (ground,air,plasma)
4. You are doing ping-pong with that charge between two points (like for example ground and ball capacitor) at chosen frequency - that why voltage is no enough, you need high frequency and correct one to do this
5.On the way of bounced charges (which run fast due to voltage and run back and forth due to highe frequency and resonance WITH THE LENGTH OF PATH) there is a load

I think this theory is simple and clear and I found it very convincing. Of course this is open path technology, but if you are stubborn you can make instead of "ping -ping" - a flow always in one direction in circle : vide TPU. The output in first case is HF HV and need probably some additional tricks to power loads (because it looks and resembles static charge ) - Tesla said you need to match load impedance (vide hairpin circuit), in case of TPU thing is simpler - you see large DC current.

Damn, I wish I could be a better practician ! Unfortunately I have "two left hands" and all I do right is investigations and  theories  :'(

wattsup

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 29, 2009, 06:49:06 AM
my device is something like this ok

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/3493651/diy_free_energy_watch_how_to_build_electro_magnetic_generator_and_light_up_your_house_for_free/

i mean, it work like this ok.

@Tito L. Oracion

That video shows more of a Newman design. You can use the Tesla Ozone design to run the drive motor and the Newman design to generate output. Hmmmmm. Interesting.

@Magluvin

Nice video with some nice toys to play around with. A few pages back I referred to the following to show how to drive a reed switch and differences of methods for reed longevity. Plus this can give you more point for flyback return.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3972.msg129703#msg129703

Also, @gyulasun is right to say this is voltage. I have had voltage rises going up to 1500 volts. It is a good way to see how things work, and then you can work out how to concentrate the voltage into more amperage afterward.

Also, may I give you an idea about your battery power supply. In our circuits, most battery power comes in as a side stream so the higher system voltage rises are isolated from the few volts coming from the battery. But those batteries can be put in line, even with the high voltage rise. I have put 110volts through those batteries and lit some bulbs, not to full power but to see that such batteries can simply stay in line, even if there is voltage rise in that same line once the circuit is running. It becomes more of a permanently charged capacitor ready to start up the device, and stay inline as part of the voltage rise.

Magluvin

gyulasun

My setup is not just voltage amplification. If I were to switch the diode on the driver circuit the other way around, I would get 250v just from the drive circuit into the cap without the 2nd stage, but try to run a load on that, nadda. By having the diode going the other way as I have it, Im only turning 2.5v into 25, but I am driving a second stage from it. Right now I have a huge .9 ohm audio coil on the second stage and it is putting out 270v. If I put a 10k resistor across the 2nd stage cap, I get 25v  and a 1k resistor , I still have 5v. If I reverse the drive circuit diode to produce 250v into a cap, not having the 2nd stage, if I put a "10k res". across the cap, I would be lucky to have 1v. Try it. It works.
So I am getting more current handling on my output than the normal bemf capture setups, even with bridge rectifiers. If I can drive a third stage, there just might be some magic there.
The third stage is coming soon.  =]

Magluvin