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ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

Started by Tito L. Oracion, February 06, 2009, 01:45:08 AM

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MrMag

Sorry, I don't have a clue what frequencies he used. Yes, he did us AC and DC. I think the frequency back then was 50Hz so the common generator would of been that. But when it comes to Tesla, who knows. He was always trying to increase the frequency so I wouldn't put it past him to rewire a generator to give him a higher frequency.

slapper

I think many are starting to experience the advantages to coil shorting.

The advantage to hitting the peaks is you are starting at the higher
potentials to begin with so the outcomes are higher.

The higher the rate of change that can be expressed across the coil the more
potential there is for the coil to receive a multiple of frequencies limited
by the coil and surrounding environment. The higher the voltage is across the
gap, usually, the higher the rate of change. The higher the dv/dt the higher
the potential frequencies and voltage across the coil.

The components to these frequencies come from the rising edge that the coil
experiences. I think fourier shows this but it has been a while.

The first spark gap immediately following the secondary in the illustrations
is a source for these high frequency waves. The spark gap is a broadband
transmitter. The higher the frequencies the higher the voltage. The higher
frequencies, and by their nature higher voltages, are bypassed through the
caps across lower impedance coils. But to the higher frequency waves this
lower impedance loop appears relatively high since their frequencies are so
high.

My part of the images were to illustrate that there may be advantages
to adding another spark gap somewhere across part of the stout inductor loop
or coil.

By connecting a second spark gap this way a primary to an autotransformer
is basically created since part of the conductor is getting 'shorted' out
when there is a jump across the coil. The remainder of the stout conductor
loop or coil acts like the secondary to the autotransformer at these lower
wavelengths and that is where even higher voltages are achieved since we
are starting with the higher voltages and higher frequency components to
begin with.

This 2nd spark gap would have the potential to produce even higher frequencies
at even higher voltages.

My guess is that the shorter wavelengths serve to cancel out the eddys between
the coil windings but I think we only can see this during high rates of change.
So the more rapid and repetitive use of the spark gap the better since by doing
so more of these rates of change are being offered to the conductor. That is
for this application. That is the way I'm thinking on this. Rotary works better.

Perhaps a more coherent field is created with a mix of these broadband components?

The high frequency waves will be greatly attenuated through the chokes or
higher impedance secondary coil. However, and especially at these high
potentials and frequencies, there will be a variation to these potentials
over time. The higher the voltages and the higher the frequencies the more
variation there is over a shorter amount of time. What will find its way back
to the primary is lower voltage at lower frequencies.

Just some thoughts.

Take care.

nap
we are not alone :)

Tito L. Oracion

Quote from: MrMag on March 06, 2011, 09:38:06 PM
Tesla usually showed a generator as his source of power. If you built one today, you would use a high voltage transformer so your input frequency would be 50/60 Hz. The spark gap is generating the high frequency pulses that need to be removed by the chokes to protect the transformer.


And no, I'm not you. That is just tito trying to confuse people again.

Me again!  >:(

maybe i'm wrong about your not him and he is not you but it is your name who is confusable  ;D

it is not my intention to confuse everyone it is only you saying that!!! i did not say that your wrong what i said is that they are not only for protection.

>:(

Why tesla still made patented that drawing with chokes and spark gap?
i think your more genious than tesla and then that thing is needed to be modify ;D

Tito L. Oracion

Quote from: MrMag on March 06, 2011, 09:24:42 PM
I think both of you guys are nuts. If you want to read more into the functions of these rf chokes, so be it. I thought you would like to know why they are in the circuit. I guess your not use to hearing the truth in this thread. With all of the confusing and misleading information being spread by tito in this thread, no wonder your confused. So, I guess with your logic, every circuit that contain an inductor, the inductor is used to boost the voltage. Tito is a great teacher.

Hey mr.Amag why are you accusing me of spreading confusion and misleading info in this thread?!!!!!  >:(

b4 you accuse, prove first!!!!!

you are free to make correction but be careful!

you desperate genious!

>:(
:-\

Tito L. Oracion

Quote from: MrMag on March 06, 2011, 11:31:05 PM
Sorry, I don't have a clue what frequencies he used. Yes, he did us AC and DC. I think the frequency back then was 50Hz so the common generator would of been that. But when it comes to Tesla, who knows. He was always trying to increase the frequency so I wouldn't put it past him to rewire a generator to give him a higher frequency.

If your not sure don't be so sure  ;D

you have a lot of maybe or who knows  ;D

so, you think?

if somebody made an accident because of not sure then you have to be accuse.  ;D