ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

[Goat]

Hey All

Not to step on any toes or detract from all the hard work going on here I'd like to point out the following from the Master himself...from patent 512340

1. A coil for electric apparatus the adjacent convolutions of which form parts of the circuit between which threre exists a potential difference  sufficient to secure in the coil a capacity capable of neutralizing its self-induction, as hereinbefore described.

2. A coil composed of contiguous or adjacent insulated conductors electcally connected in series and having a potential difference of such value as to give to the coil as a whole, a capacity sufficient to neutralize its self-induction, as set forth.

NIKOLA TESLA.

So...can the configuration of a coil affect a circuit?  How many coil configurations are there?  Wattsup pointed to a CT (Center Tapped) coil so why not any kind of coil that might work here.

Edit: link to pancake coil from patent 512340 http://www.google.com/patents?id=baRZAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA43&dq=tesla+512340&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=2#v=onepage&q&f=false

If we can pulse a pancake coil from a battery and with the coil's capacity return it to the source, can we gain in IP vs OP?

Regards,
Paul

[wattsup]

Regarding posted Reply #1101,
Hadn't there ought to be a high-enough voltage capacitor paralleled with the coil to store a charge for spark gap shorting to the battery?
(I looked and saw that something might be missing.  Otherwise, the circuit is simple and straightforward.) --Lee

I agree, he won't get any spark across that switch with only the charge that is stored up in the inductor.

That is just to show what is happening inside the coil in slow motion. All that movement would take but a millisecond. What I wanted to show is the action that you see on the scope, the first rise, then the gradual slope resonance, then the negative side discharge. You see it on the scope and I wanted to show it on an animation.

When the coil is open, you have twice as much positive potential in the coil then when it is closed. The negative pushes the positive back into the coil giving the famous kick (waveform flash) that has guys scratching their heads for so long. When the coil opens again the positive now pushes out the negative as the spark onto the negative of the feed supply.

Don't confuse this with a spark gap on a high voltage line. Just think of the coil having high inductance. It could also have capacitors, etc., as I am showing below as an example.

The first half of the coil (left half) always stays positive. The second half of the coil (right half) starts positive biased, then gets hit by the negative. I will have to explain this many times. The negative cannot go past the half way point. While it gets there, it is pushing the positive back into the first half and that gives you the kick. When the coil opens, that inductive discharge is the positive rushing to reclaim the complete coil thus pushing back to the end of the coil while pushing out the negative potential. That is the field collapse we all imagine. By the way, there is no field collapse. The field is always released. Fields are not trained dogs that obey to the first whistle. Once their reason for sticking around is gone, they leave also. A field for a coil is like a flame for a fire. The flame never goes back into the fire. Once it's out, it goes back to the Ether where is first originated as elections around the atoms of the mass. lol

The only part of the coil that is really switching from positive to negative is the second half. This is only relevant when pulsing a coil with both sides of the coil in the circuit. It does not apply to pulsing an open ended coil. This may put some more ideas for TK designs.

In the TK glass unit, there is a small coil with two other coils, one on each end wound over it. If you put a positive to a center tap and pulse the negative of the two ends together, the above same logic will mean the two outer quarters are changing from positive to negative. Hence his two over coils one at each end. (See OC1 and OC2 at A below)

Now if you use this half coil static / half coil dynamic into further practice, you can then make what I would call "tri-coils". (See C and D variations with same direct over coil (C) and perpendicular overcoil (D).

A tri-coil is really two coils with half half bifilar wound on one layer. This means let's say 20 winds of one wire, then continue with that wire and a new wire for 20 winds at which point the first coil leaves and the second coil now continues for 20 turns. This will give you half/bi-halves/half or A20(AB20)B20. A tri-coil of two coils. You then wind the secondary (OC1) over the bifilar area.

This may give some of you guys a push to get out of the simple coil wind method and start using this method to increase your output and provide better coupling potentials without the cross bottlenecks that standard coil over coil have to fight against to produce the outputs that you presently see.

Then there is how to use this logic in winding toroidal coils. The idea is always the same. Use the first half of the coil for biasing and the second half of the coil for coupling transfer. The first half would be the outer layer of a two layer discharge coil. The pulsed side would always be the end that is closest to the core. I am convinced that guys that play with the Joule Thief will get higher OU with this type of logic. This also applies to toroidal winds of TPUs, and more. A ring of 2 1/4 turns will have one static turn and one dynamic turn with a little overlap, so you are always better off with the pulsed half to be against the coupling line.

The notion that when you pulse a coil, the pulse travels across the coil windings with equal effect is impossible. The main effect will be on the first half of the end that is pulsed and die off through the second half. Yes you will still get a scope reading on the second half but the dynamic movement will mainly happen on the half that is pulsed.

I am also putting this information up on my new forum that I made recently at etherimpressDOTcom. It is freshly started and is designed for mostly builders that need a quiet place to store their information. The site is fully viewable for guests so there is no favoritism in that regard. It is just that I do not think there will be hundreds of members. I needed to put my own works and theories, etc., all in one place and am offering a place to those that need it.

wattsup

[MrMag]

Are you willing to share what results you have achieved with your coils. The only concern or question that I have is are you sure that the inductor is charged from left to right (or right to left) and not gradually charging up as a whole. I was wondering, why not just wind a half a coil and use a resister for the second half. If what you are saying is true, you are really using only half of the inductor.

[Tito L. Oracion]

wow! not bad 

Always note: use input then the effect of the input which is the output then join them together then flushes them all back to the source ok its amazing. 

it'll turn into self charging!!!

auto alternator obsolete !
auto alternator obsolete !
auto alternator obsolete !

[forest]

Tito
I wonder now if we could use the same method with AC current.
Where is backEMF with AC so we could route it as output  ?
Am I right ? I think Tesla knew. I saw once his statement in article from thirthies.